At 7:41 pm +0000 21/11/01, Ryan O'Connell wrote:

I don't call 800ms+ RTTs to major exchange points "fixed". "Less broken" perhaps. Most of our customers would leave with this sort of latency!

Fortunatly I am not buying my bandwidth from them - just the local ADSL loop:-( <traceroute:194.153.169.194> www.complicity.co.uk Hop Sent Received Seconds IP Address Name 1 YYY YYY 0.003 212.20.247.49 adsl.forthview.net 2 YYY YYY 0.048 212.20.242.1 212.20.242.1 3 YYY YYY 0.049 195.97.221.121 olivefe1-0.onyx.net 4 YYY YYY 0.068 195.97.199.73 willows2-1.onyx.net 5 YYY YYY 0.065 213.166.3.185 213.166.3.185 6 YYY YYY 0.059 195.149.20.77 lon1-2.nildram.net 7 YYY YYY 0.12 195.149.20.141 lon1-10.nildram.net 8 YYY YYY 0.080 193.203.5.81 lonap-gw.jump.org.uk 9 YYY YYY 0.065 194.153.169.194 look-to-windward.complicity.co.uk f