Re: Affects of the balkanization of mail blacklisting
J.A. Terranson wrote:
The SPAM problem goes up and down to be sure, but you know what? PROCMAIL is your friend. All you need to look for are the basics (ADV, Make Money, etc) and you can instatly filter 90 percent of this trash into the bitbucket.
Oh, so it is OK to filter incoming mail if it contains ADV in the Subject: line? Why, then, is it not OK to filter on a list of IP addresses? --Johnny
(I'm not 100% convinced that J.A. Terranson will receive your email.. :) --BC
J.A. Terranson wrote:
The SPAM problem goes up and down to be sure, but you know what? PROCMAIL is your friend. All you need to look for are the basics (ADV, Make Money, etc) and you can instatly filter 90 percent of this trash into the bitbucket.
Oh, so it is OK to filter incoming mail if it contains ADV in the Subject: line? Why, then, is it not OK to filter on a list of IP addresses?
--Johnny
On Tue, 14 Aug 2001, Johnny Eriksson wrote:
J.A. Terranson wrote:
The SPAM problem goes up and down to be sure, but you know what? PROCMAIL is your friend. All you need to look for are the basics (ADV, Make Money, etc) and you can instatly filter 90 percent of this trash into the bitbucket.
Oh, so it is OK to filter incoming mail if it contains ADV in the Subject: line? Why, then, is it not OK to filter on a list of IP addresses?
--Johnny
You are missing my point. I am filtering for *me*, personally. I do not, and *will NOT* filter for users. As for filtering on IPs, I do that as well, mostly for ORBS/MAPS/Micro$oft like domains. -- Yours, J.A. Terranson sysadmin@mfn.org If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place... --------------------------------------------------------------------
Folks, Lottsa heat, very, very little light in this thread. Let's drop it, OK? David Leonard ShaysNet On Tue, 14 Aug 2001 measl@mfn.org wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2001, Johnny Eriksson wrote:
J.A. Terranson wrote:
The SPAM problem goes up and down to be sure, but you know what? PROCMAIL is your friend. All you need to look for are the basics (ADV, Make Money, etc) and you can instatly filter 90 percent of this trash into the bitbucket.
Oh, so it is OK to filter incoming mail if it contains ADV in the Subject: line? Why, then, is it not OK to filter on a list of IP addresses?
--Johnny
You are missing my point. I am filtering for *me*, personally. I do not, and *will NOT* filter for users. As for filtering on IPs, I do that as well, mostly for ORBS/MAPS/Micro$oft like domains.
-- Yours, J.A. Terranson sysadmin@mfn.org
If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.
The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place... --------------------------------------------------------------------
You are missing my point. I am filtering for *me*, personally. I do not, and *will NOT* filter for users. As for filtering on IPs, I do that as well, mostly for ORBS/MAPS/Micro$oft like domains.
Gee, you don't work for mfn.org, huh J? -- JustThe.net LLC - Steve "Web Dude" Sobol, CTO - sjsobol@JustThe.net Donate a portion of your monthly ISP bill to your favorite charity or non-profit organization! E-mail me for details.
On Wed, 15 Aug 2001, Steven J. Sobol wrote:
You are missing my point. I am filtering for *me*, personally. I do not, and *will NOT* filter for users. As for filtering on IPs, I do that as well, mostly for ORBS/MAPS/Micro$oft like domains.
Gee, you don't work for mfn.org, huh J?
What? Who is "J", and why would you care if s/he works for MFN? -- Yours, J.A. Terranson sysadmin@mfn.org If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place... --------------------------------------------------------------------
On Wed, 15 Aug 2001 measl@mfn.org wrote:
and *will NOT* filter for users. As for filtering on IPs, I do that as well, mostly for ORBS/MAPS/Micro$oft like domains.
Gee, you don't work for mfn.org, huh J?
What? Who is "J", and why would you care if s/he works for MFN?
Unless I'm reading incorrectly (which is possible), you were representing yourself as an MFN admin and then in another message you said you didn't work for them. If I misread, I apologize! -- JustThe.net LLC - Steve "Web Dude" Sobol, CTO - sjsobol@JustThe.net Donate a portion of your monthly ISP bill to your favorite charity or non-profit organization! E-mail me for details.
On Wed, 15 Aug 2001, Steven J. Sobol wrote:
On Wed, 15 Aug 2001 measl@mfn.org wrote:
and *will NOT* filter for users. As for filtering on IPs, I do that as well, mostly for ORBS/MAPS/Micro$oft like domains.
Gee, you don't work for mfn.org, huh J?
What? Who is "J", and why would you care if s/he works for MFN?
Unless I'm reading incorrectly (which is possible), you were representing yourself as an MFN admin and then in another message you said you didn't work for them.
If I misread, I apologize!
OK, I get it... Nobody "works" per se at MFN: it's 100% volunteer. I work for an NSP in order to eat... MFN has been around since early 1994, with a several week lapse in registration serveral years ago, so I well remember the original discussion of MAPS and its bretheren. MFN was, at my urging, one of, if not the first adopter of MAPS in the St. Louis area. It is only with the 20-20 hindsight that I can see what a terrible idea these services are. -- Yours, J.A. Terranson sysadmin@mfn.org If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place... --------------------------------------------------------------------
mfn.org == Missouri FreeNet != mfn.com == Metromedia Fiber Networks -C On Wed, Aug 15, 2001 at 09:33:50PM -0400, Steven J. Sobol wrote:
On Wed, 15 Aug 2001 measl@mfn.org wrote:
and *will NOT* filter for users. As for filtering on IPs, I do that as well, mostly for ORBS/MAPS/Micro$oft like domains.
Gee, you don't work for mfn.org, huh J?
What? Who is "J", and why would you care if s/he works for MFN?
Unless I'm reading incorrectly (which is possible), you were representing yourself as an MFN admin and then in another message you said you didn't work for them.
If I misread, I apologize!
-- JustThe.net LLC - Steve "Web Dude" Sobol, CTO - sjsobol@JustThe.net
Donate a portion of your monthly ISP bill to your favorite charity or non-profit organization! E-mail me for details.
-- --------------------------- Christopher A. Woodfield rekoil@semihuman.com PGP Public Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xB887618B
On Wed, 15 Aug 2001 measl@mfn.org wrote:
On Wed, 15 Aug 2001, Steven J. Sobol wrote:
You are missing my point. I am filtering for *me*, personally. I do not, and *will NOT* filter for users. As for filtering on IPs, I do that as well, mostly for ORBS/MAPS/Micro$oft like domains.
Gee, you don't work for mfn.org, huh J?
What? Who is "J", and why would you care if s/he works for MFN?
-- Yours, J.A. Terranson sysadmin@mfn.org
[longranting signature line snipped because it is quoted below] OK "J"... _YOU_ are "J" or at least that is who you claim to be in your signature line. May I direct your attention to item 7 of the NANOG Mailing List AUP: http://www.nanog.org/aup.html 7. Postings to the list must be made using real, identifiable names and addresses, rather than aliases. Also, for the record: |Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 06:58:14 -0500 (CDT) |From: measl@mfn.org |To: John Fraizer <nanog@Overkill.EnterZone.Net> |Subject: RE: Affects of the balkanization of mail blacklisting | | |On Tue, 14 Aug 2001, John Fraizer wrote: | |> Is it possible that you might trim your signature to be at least smaller |> than your contributed post? Perhaps a hyperlink to your rant vs posting |> your rant? | |No. | |-- |Yours, |J.A. Terranson |sysadmin@mfn.org | |If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they |should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: |Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of |unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in |the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and |elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire |populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... |This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States |as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. | |The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, |associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of |those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the |first place... |-------------------------------------------------------------------- You know why birds fly up-side-down over Missouri? Because there isn't anything worth pooping on there! You've made my point over and over again in your prior posts "J" so, don't bother responding. --- John Fraizer EnterZone, Inc
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Steven J. Sobol