Ah, but I said "poetic justice". Like for like. I am hearing DDoS over and over. As I understand it, the application will throttle to prevent Denial of access. It just causes additional GB to be used and paid for. Fraudulent CC use is an entirely different issue... -m -----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu] On Behalf Of Erik Haagsman Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 3:30 PM To: Paul G Cc: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: "Make love, not spam".... I agree and I'm surprised you even mentioned the wordt justice...since when is retaliating bad practices with more bad practises that are hardly likely to take out the real target considered a good idea..? Erik Paul G wrote:

spammer buys hosting account, pays with fraudulent credit card, spams,provider gets ddos'ed and ends up paying for all the bandwidth because youcan't well charge some unsuspecting grandma in alabama for it. i don't likethis kind of justice.

--- paul galynin