On Mon, Jul 28, 1997 at 12:00:10PM -0700, Sarah Baker wrote:
Off-topic to nanog.
It appears that the members of the list feel it's a worthy topic for discussion. Since you obviously don't, and I can just feel Paul Ferguson and Randy Baker slavering at the bit, I'm going to try asking this just _one_ more time, and if I don't get an answer within, say, 48 hours, I'm going to start plonking people who yell "off-topic": ************************** Would an administrator of this list please compose and post a message defining in precise terms what topic areas are on- and off-topic for the NANOG mailing list? ************************** Pay careful attention, folks: the AUP is useless. It has not clearly forbidden _any_ of the topics I've seen people get screamed at about in the past month, with the sole exception of my bit of (you'll have to admit: provoked) ventilation a week or so ago, for which I hereby apologize publically to the parites involved. Private correspondence from people who might be expected to have valid opinions tells me that this problem _is not me_. The definition of the list is obviously inadequate, and I'm rapidly coming to the conclusion that the list needs to be split into an announce list and a discussion list, although I haven't quite yet characterized the exact distinction in the traffic. In short: this list is turning into an old-boys (and -girls_ club, in which the participants are expected to guess what the rules really are, and mistakes are punished by beheading. The Emperor really _has_ no lightsaber. Let's buy him one, no? Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth High Technology Systems Consulting Ashworth Designer Linux: Where Do You Want To Fly Today? & Associates ka1fjx/4 Crack. It does a body good. +1 813 790 7592 jra@baylink.com http://rc5.distributed.net NIC: jra3
I concur. This is way off-topic. A pointer to the list charter was posted recently and this crap wasn't part of it. On Mon, 28 Jul 1997, Jay R. Ashworth wrote:
On Mon, Jul 28, 1997 at 12:00:10PM -0700, Sarah Baker wrote:
Off-topic to nanog.
It appears that the members of the list feel it's a worthy topic for discussion. Since you obviously don't, and I can just feel Paul Ferguson and Randy Baker slavering at the bit, I'm going to try asking this just _one_ more time, and if I don't get an answer within, say, 48 hours, I'm going to start plonking people who yell "off-topic":
************************** Would an administrator of this list please compose and post a message defining in precise terms what topic areas are on- and off-topic for the NANOG mailing list? **************************
Pay careful attention, folks: the AUP is useless. It has not clearly forbidden _any_ of the topics I've seen people get screamed at about in the past month, with the sole exception of my bit of (you'll have to admit: provoked) ventilation a week or so ago, for which I hereby apologize publically to the parites involved.
Private correspondence from people who might be expected to have valid opinions tells me that this problem _is not me_. The definition of the list is obviously inadequate, and I'm rapidly coming to the conclusion that the list needs to be split into an announce list and a discussion list, although I haven't quite yet characterized the exact distinction in the traffic.
In short: this list is turning into an old-boys (and -girls_ club, in which the participants are expected to guess what the rules really are, and mistakes are punished by beheading.
The Emperor really _has_ no lightsaber.
Let's buy him one, no?
Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth High Technology Systems Consulting Ashworth Designer Linux: Where Do You Want To Fly Today? & Associates ka1fjx/4 Crack. It does a body good. +1 813 790 7592 jra@baylink.com http://rc5.distributed.net NIC: jra3
-- Regards, Tom ________________________________________________________________________ | "The Egg Domain" | "And all you touch and all you see, | | tomg@egg.com | is all your life will ever be." | | http://www.egg.com/ | (Pink Floyd) |
************************** Would an administrator of this list please compose and post a message defining in precise terms what topic areas are on- and off-topic for the NANOG mailing list? **************************
Pay careful attention, folks: the AUP is useless. It has not clearly forbidden _any_ of the topics I've seen people get screamed at about in the past month, with the sole exception of my bit of (you'll have to admit: provoked) ventilation a week or so ago, for which I hereby apologize publically to the parites involved.
I'm personally sick of all the 'off topic' messages. So, I say your off topic message is off topic, and this reply to your off topic message is off topic. InterNIC dying (if it was true) is the sort of thing which could get posted to this list. It does effect all networks and network operators. If InterNIC goes boom, well gee... it's nice to know. Now, the 8001 replies about how InterNIC doesn't work on Saturday's and Sunday's (damn them for wanting TWO days off), that might be a bit excessive, but I don't need 3 people to bitch and whine about it being off topic, and then another 10 replying saying they agree. If you aren't part of the solution, your part of the problem. (I'm part of the problem for writing this, but... i'm a rebel) Jordan -- Jordan Mendelson : www.wserv.com/~jordy/ Web Services, Inc. : www.wserv.com Quote Of The Day : The world is only round if you perceive it to be so.
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