Yes. Best effort should be something to aspire to, not "worse than carrier grade" -----Original Message----- From: "Sean Donelan"<sean@donelan.com> Sent: 16/12/2005 00:15:49 To: "nanog@merit.edu"<nanog@merit.edu> Cc: Subject: RE: The Qos PipeDream [Was: RE: Two Tiered Internet] On Thu, 15 Dec 2005, Fergie wrote:

I think Bill Manning hit on it a couple of days ago; Bill said something about the Internet being about best effort and QoS should be (various) levels of 'better-than-best effort' -- and anything less that best effort is _not_ the Internet.

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