-----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of Richard Cox Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 2:01 PM To: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: ChinaNet Contacts
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 12:13:07 -0500 "Jon R. Kibler" <Jon.Kibler@aset.com> wrote:
I know that this is a REALLY sore point, but has anyone ever established any good working relations with anyone in CHINANET or other China-based ISPs?
Yes, indeed. And been out to Beijing to have meetings with them.
I wouldn't go as far as label it systemic. Both Chinese and Korean organizations are participating in some of the behind the scenes security/mitigation activities going on and have been helpful. Not all. Some. -M<
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005, Hannigan, Martin wrote:
I wouldn't go as far as label it systemic. Both Chinese and Korean organizations are participating in some of the behind the scenes security/mitigation activities going on and have been helpful. Not all. Some.
Remember that chinanet was the one who setup the infamous lying autoresponder: "In your SPAM eMail,I can't find the IP or the IP is not by my control.Please give me the correct IP.Thank you." Then they attend regional meetings and complain that people are blocking them. Gee I wonder why. -Dan
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 14:09:58 EST, "Hannigan, Martin" said:
I wouldn't go as far as label it systemic. Both Chinese and Korean organizations are participating in some of the behind the scenes security/mitigation activities going on and have been helpful. Not all. Some.
Yes, however the clue is spread very thin indeed - I'm sure the clued have their hands full dealing with the *really* egregious issues, and "yet another compromised host" is too common a case for them to be able to deal with it. Those of us who have *enough* trouble keeping our own broadband users zombie-free should be glad we're not the Korean CIRT staff. *THEY* got handed an entire *COUNTRY* full of clueless users on high-speed connections.
Yo Vladis!
Those of us who have *enough* trouble keeping our own broadband users zombie-free should be glad we're not the Korean CIRT staff. *THEY* got handed an entire *COUNTRY* full of clueless users on high-speed connections.
Indeed, KrCERT is doing a very good job at cluing KR. They are very good at handling incidents as well. China.. now that's a different problem. So many organizations and no clue as to who to contact. Their CERT is a part of FIRST, but that's about it as far as *I* know. But hey, we are a community. This is where we make this happen. On my personal back yard, Israeli ISP's are divided to those who don't care, and the few that make an effort. As it is my back yard, if you ever need help with an incident, please ping me. Gadi.
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