<points taken> In discussions with some people, we've/i've decided to bring everything into one list, for public discussion about the peering points. There isn't a list setup now to have such discussions, except possibly inet-access. The new idea is to setup publicnap.net as more of a web resource with an accompanying mailing list, rather than multiple mailing lists with a website. IE, naps@publicnap.net will be for discussions about the NAP's, and on the website we plan on putting up FAQs for as many NAP's as we can get information on, and put them in a centralized location. The items we're looking to put into FAQ's for NAP's are: address npa/nxx contact info pricing connection types who's there, and contact info for who's there what telco's have buildings lit who control's the risers The ideal person that the FAQ would be targetted for would be: Someone who can either go into AADS or Mae West. Things that would make his decision would be who's currently peering at each point, how much would it cost to get there (what telco has his building lit, as well as either AADS or Mae West), etc. We will link to the NAP's website when they have relevant info, and keep it locally on the FAQ where they do not. If you have information on any NAP's, in the US or abroad, let me know. We've already had some volunteers. The more help/knowledge the better. Jeff On 9 Oct 2000, Sean Donelan wrote:

Date: 9 Oct 2000 00:31:27 -0700 From: Sean Donelan <sean@donelan.com> To: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: New Peering Point Mailing Lists

On Sun, 08 October 2000, Simon Lockhart wrote:

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Where I see benefit in having independant lists about NAPs (in general, I think it's a bit premature to have separate lists for each NAP) if for gaining preliminary information about the NAP, for those people considering joining.

Historically, NAP disccussion took place on a relatively few mailing lists.

In The Beginning.... all the public discussions took place on com-priv@psi.net com-priv has been pretty much defunct for a few years.

Later the discussions migrated to various regional mailing lists such as nanog and ripe. Later they seperated into different groups, for "big" isps and for "tiny" isps. Small ISPs generally ask the questions on the mailing lists they already use, such as inet-access. Big ISPs have private mailing lists, but they don't say much.

The problem, such as what happened when someone set up a whole bunch of new york colo lists, is the subject areas really aren't that different. So people start cross-posting to all the lists, which means subscribers such as myself who subscribed to all of them, receive the same message over and over and over again. Just like when the first message in this thread was cross-posted to multiple lists.

If you feel there is a need for a public nap mailing list, please create one. Please don't create lots of new tiny lists.