-----Original Message----- From: Bill Nash [mailto:billn@billn.net] Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2005 8:09 PM To: Hannigan, Martin Cc: Fergie (Paul Ferguson); nanog@merit.edu Subject: RE: IRC bots...

On Sat, 12 Mar 2005, Hannigan, Martin wrote:

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Who's got time for all that? Chase the controller, shut down the user until they buy some AV software. We've gone beyond "I didn't know" for endusers in most regions.

Enterprise IT staff running from whip-cracking security staff, that's who has time for it.

The botnet problem is in Internet policy land, FWIW. It's operational. For now. I think it's controllable at the 'security policy' level for corporations. My point regarding it being the same as spam is that many people are already not interested in it for the same reasons as spam. YMMV. [ SNIP ] -M<