Internet Y2K and Europe, South America, and Middle East
Is anyone aware of any regional joint ISP monitoring and communication efforts over New Year's for European, South American and Middle East ISPs? Or are most ISPs in those areas relying on a US-based backbone provider to keep them informed? North America, Asia, Australia/New Zealand seem to have a plethora of groups.
What do you want to monitor? real time problems are not supposed to appear, billing and accounting problems are not monitored at all. Why so many people aware unexisting problems (some computer refuse to work due to Y2K - let me smile for a 10 minutes hearing this - and so few people really understand Y2K problems (billing systems, accounting systems, daily-log-analysing systems, and so on). But this means that real Y2K problems appear approximateky 3 - 10 of january, not at 12:00 31-December. And this means all this ISP monitoring is useless, you'll monitor not more than people's paranoia about Y2K and will not monitor any real problems. On 20 Dec 1999, Sean Donelan wrote:
Date: 20 Dec 1999 14:49:15 -0800 From: Sean Donelan <sean@donelan.com> To: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Internet Y2K and Europe, South America, and Middle East
Is anyone aware of any regional joint ISP monitoring and communication efforts over New Year's for European, South American and Middle East ISPs? Or are most ISPs in those areas relying on a US-based backbone provider to keep them informed?
North America, Asia, Australia/New Zealand seem to have a plethora of groups.
Aleksei Roudnev, (+1 415) 585-3489 /San Francisco CA/
On Mon, Dec 20, 1999 at 02:49:15PM -0800, Sean Donelan wrote:
Is anyone aware of any regional joint ISP monitoring and communication efforts over New Year's for European, South American and Middle East ISPs? Or are most ISPs in those areas relying on a US-based backbone provider to keep them informed?
North America, Asia, Australia/New Zealand seem to have a plethora of groups.
While I am interested in the general effort, Sean's comment "most ISPs in those areas relying on a US-based backbone provider". Ha ha ha ha. Rant follows... Since dealing with Sprint starting in 1993 and through any number of US "tier 1" providers in the US from the UK we have never had anything but poor service. The frustration of trying to convince some $%**#! in a US NOC that the telco's in the UK and Europe don't use the same equipment / procedures / acronyms as they do is usually the first hurdle. Getting someone to understand how to call an overseas number is the second. Reminding the same person that London is *not* in the US is the third. The list goes on. Regards, -- Peter Galbavy Knowledge Matters Ltd http://www.knowledge.com/
Since dealing with Sprint starting in 1993 and through any number of US "tier 1" providers in the US from the UK we have never had anything but poor service. The frustration of trying to convince some $%**#! in a US NOC that the telco's in the UK and Europe don't use the same equipment / procedures / acronyms as they do is usually the first hurdle. Getting someone to understand how to call an overseas number is the second. Reminding the same person that London is *not* in the US is the third. The list goes on.
A year ago I would have agreed, but from certain providers we see them proactivly trying to be european and have euro noc's that deal with your issues. -- Neil J. McRae - Alive and Kicking. neil@DOMINO.ORG
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