Re: The Gorgon's Knot. Was: Re: Verio Peering Question
| I don't know whether to argue this on the grounds that N^2 grows faster than N | and that the memory and processing capabilities of any single routing node are | insignificant next to the power of flap propagation It's more fun to suggest that not only should the Internet work in theory, it should work in practice, and in such a way that it can continue growing along several axes (number of users/links/nodes, time-online per user, amount of traffic moved per user per unit of time, ...). This suggests that cheap technology SHOULD be used. Unfortunately, the people who argue for "home appliances" have fallen victim to the theology of capex as the one true God, and should invest in some dotcoms/dotnets that work along those lines, while they still can. The reality is that upgrade and replacement costs in an expanding corner of the Internet tend to be large, and downtime represents a substantial real operational expense in the presence of modern SLAs (not to mention opportunity costs). Understanding those costs is as important as choosing equipment that works well enough today. This makes even home appliances appear expensive to own compared with the physical goo inside them, and there is no magic trick around high TCO in a busy part of the Internet. Forgive me for discussing engineering principles on NANOG. I know they're off-topic, and will shut up now. Sean. PS also sorry for the trendy acronym meaning total cost of ownership
At 01:27 PM 9/28/2001 -0700, Sean M. Doran wrote:
The reality is that upgrade and replacement costs in an expanding corner of the Internet tend to be large, and downtime represents a substantial real operational expense in the presence of modern SLAs (not to mention opportunity costs). Understanding those costs is as important as choosing equipment that works well enough today. This makes even home appliances appear expensive to own compared with the physical goo inside them, and there is no magic trick around high TCO in a busy part of the Internet.
Agreed. Penny wise, pound foolish, and all that. But those same principles can be applied to someone needing good, reliable, fast connectivity to the Internet. "Downtime represents a substantial real operational expense", and not just to the people paying the SLA credits. I have not see a solution that provides an answer to the need for robust, high performance connectivity as well as multi-homing. Do you have an alternative suggestion? -- TTFN, patrick
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