Finally, the CERT is actually getting some money for their stuff. Usually, some "security" company (A.K.A. large accounting firm/professional consulting firm) charges a large sum of money claiming they will scour all the secret hacker lairs. But all you get are re-packaged CERT messages. However, are there any "real humans" involved in this effort. The alliance's web site seems purposely designed to obscure all information about the people behind the alliance. No executive direct is listed, no members or listed, only generic roll accounts are listed for e-mail. On Thu, 19 April 2001, Eric Germann wrote:

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