Re: CISA: Guidance on the Essential Critical Infrastructure Workforce
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On 19 Mar 2020, at 21:36, Sean Donelan <sean@donelan.com <mailto:sean@donelan.com>> wrote:
The U.S. Cyber and Infrastructure Security Agency (part of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security) has issued new Guidance on the Essential Critical Infrastructure Workforce.
The memorandum is advisory, not presecriptive. DHS is only one of several agencies assigned some National Essential Functions so it is not exhaustive list. It looks like someone found the three-ring emergency plan binders. Sad its needed, but appreciative of the experts which helped write those planning documents over the years.
https://www.cisa.gov/publication/guidance-essential-critical-infrastructure <https://www.cisa.gov/publication/guidance-essential-critical-infrastructure> -workforce
[...] The attached list identifies workers who conduct a range of operations and services that are essential to continued critical infrastructure viability, including staffing operations centers, maintaining and repairing critical infrastructure, operating call centers, working construction, and performing management functions, among others. The industries they support represent, but are not necessarily limited to, medical and healthcare, telecommunications, information technology systems, defense, food and agriculture, transportation and logistics, energy, water and wastewater, law enforcement, and public works.
We recognize that State, local, tribal, and territorial governments are ultimately in charge of implementing and executing response activities in communities under their jurisdiction, while the Federal Government is in a supporting role. As State and local communities consider
COVID-19-related restrictions, CISA is offering this list to assist prioritizing activities related to continuity of operations and incident response, including the appropriate movement of critical infrastructure workers within and between jurisdictions.
Accordingly, this list is advisory in nature. It is not, nor should it be considered to be, a federal directive or standard in and of itself. [...]
I hope they give them masks, and ideally total body coverage, one time use, like One Time Passwords. I really hope it. Lots of key workers here without masks. I dont know whether you know the joke about going to war without weapons. We did kid about Russians doing that in WWII, and about others in WW1. If you do not have masks, please make mask yourself, do it yourself, tissue, elastics, its easy; cut a rear pocket from the jeans. Constalty wear it, but also when distanced from others remove it. One can see to a longer distance than one can breath the virus spread. But stay away and dont breath if mask down. It's also good to wear eye glasses, like 'shades', to avoid virus intake by the eyes. When one shows face to others its good, somebody can tell have seen that person. If you do wear gloves then make sure you change them after each time you touched something. Changing gloves involves a particular technique: whhen ungloving avoid touching the external side of glove with your skin. Do not put your gloved hands in your elbow angle while waiting patiently and showing force (some security people wear gloves, then cough in elbow, and then display force by putting palms in elbow angle - 'croiser les bras', french). Alex Le 20/03/2020 à 07:27, colin johnston a écrit :
UK gov notification of key worker status inc Telecommunication/Data Centre workers https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-maintaining-...
Col
On 19 Mar 2020, at 21:36, Sean Donelan <sean@donelan.com <mailto:sean@donelan.com>> wrote:
The U.S. Cyber and Infrastructure Security Agency (part of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security) has issued new Guidance on the Essential Critical Infrastructure Workforce.
The memorandum is advisory, not presecriptive. DHS is only one of several agencies assigned some National Essential Functions so it is not exhaustive list. It looks like someone found the three-ring emergency plan binders. Sad its needed, but appreciative of the experts which helped write those planning documents over the years.
https://www.cisa.gov/publication/guidance-essential-critical-infrastructure -workforce
[...] The attached list identifies workers who conduct a range of operations and services that are essential to continued critical infrastructure viability, including staffing operations centers, maintaining and repairing critical infrastructure, operating call centers, working construction, and performing management functions, among others. The industries they support represent, but are not necessarily limited to, medical and healthcare, telecommunications, information technology systems, defense, food and agriculture, transportation and logistics, energy, water and wastewater, law enforcement, and public works.
We recognize that State, local, tribal, and territorial governments are ultimately in charge of implementing and executing response activities in communities under their jurisdiction, while the Federal Government is in a supporting role. As State and local communities consider
COVID-19-related restrictions, CISA is offering this list to assist prioritizing activities related to continuity of operations and incident response, including the appropriate movement of critical infrastructure workers within and between jurisdictions.
Accordingly, this list is advisory in nature. It is not, nor should it be considered to be, a federal directive or standard in and of itself. [...]
This really depends on particulate size. A mask may only save you from touching your face. You are much better off just washing your hands constantly and keeping your distance as much as possible from others. Remove, wash your clothes, and shower immediately when you get home. Use hand sanitizers throughout the day and don't touch your face. When wearing gloves, you DO NOT change them after you touch something. The objective is not to keep the gloves clean, but your hands; excessive changing of gloves will only lead to more particulate transfer onto your skin. -- Ryland From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+rkremeier=barryelectric.com@nanog.org> On Behalf Of Heart Rate Var LF/HF== Sent: Friday, March 20, 2020 7:09 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: CISA: Guidance on the Essential Critical Infrastructure Workforce I hope they give them masks, and ideally total body coverage, one time use, like One Time Passwords. I really hope it. Lots of key workers here without masks. I dont know whether you know the joke about going to war without weapons. We did kid about Russians doing that in WWII, and about others in WW1. If you do not have masks, please make mask yourself, do it yourself, tissue, elastics, its easy; cut a rear pocket from the jeans. Constalty wear it, but also when distanced from others remove it. One can see to a longer distance than one can breath the virus spread. But stay away and dont breath if mask down. It's also good to wear eye glasses, like 'shades', to avoid virus intake by the eyes. When one shows face to others its good, somebody can tell have seen that person. If you do wear gloves then make sure you change them after each time you touched something. Changing gloves involves a particular technique: whhen ungloving avoid touching the external side of glove with your skin. Do not put your gloved hands in your elbow angle while waiting patiently and showing force (some security people wear gloves, then cough in elbow, and then display force by putting palms in elbow angle - 'croiser les bras', french). Alex Le 20/03/2020 à 07:27, colin johnston a écrit : UK gov notification of key worker status inc Telecommunication/Data Centre workers https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-maintaining-... Col On 19 Mar 2020, at 21:36, Sean Donelan <sean@donelan.com<mailto:sean@donelan.com>> wrote: The U.S. Cyber and Infrastructure Security Agency (part of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security) has issued new Guidance on the Essential Critical Infrastructure Workforce. The memorandum is advisory, not presecriptive. DHS is only one of several agencies assigned some National Essential Functions so it is not exhaustive list. It looks like someone found the three-ring emergency plan binders. Sad its needed, but appreciative of the experts which helped write those planning documents over the years. https://www.cisa.gov/publication/guidance-essential-critical-infrastructure -workforce [...] The attached list identifies workers who conduct a range of operations and services that are essential to continued critical infrastructure viability, including staffing operations centers, maintaining and repairing critical infrastructure, operating call centers, working construction, and performing management functions, among others. The industries they support represent, but are not necessarily limited to, medical and healthcare, telecommunications, information technology systems, defense, food and agriculture, transportation and logistics, energy, water and wastewater, law enforcement, and public works. We recognize that State, local, tribal, and territorial governments are ultimately in charge of implementing and executing response activities in communities under their jurisdiction, while the Federal Government is in a supporting role. As State and local communities consider COVID-19-related restrictions, CISA is offering this list to assist prioritizing activities related to continuity of operations and incident response, including the appropriate movement of critical infrastructure workers within and between jurisdictions. Accordingly, this list is advisory in nature. It is not, nor should it be considered to be, a federal directive or standard in and of itself. [...]
LF/HF Le 20/03/2020 à 13:48, Ryland Kremeier a écrit :
This really depends on particulate size. A mask may only save you from touching your face. You are much better off just washing your hands constantly and keeping your distance as much as possible from others. Remove, wash your clothes, and shower immediately when you get home. Use hand sanitizers throughout the day and don’t touch your face.
When wearing gloves, you DO NOT change them after you touch something. The objective is not to keep the gloves clean, but your hands; excessive changing of gloves will only lead to more particulate transfer onto your skin.
In France I must show a paper (not smartphone) printed permit, each sortie one different paper. The receiver of it (police) takes it in his/her gloved hands then s/he passes it back to me. I do not have gloves. I wished the receiver did not use the same gloves for each pereson who passes by and delivers that paper to him. TRansmission should be analyzed. Alex
-- Ryland
*From:* NANOG <nanog-bounces+rkremeier=barryelectric.com@nanog.org> *On Behalf Of *Heart Rate Var LF/HF== *Sent:* Friday, March 20, 2020 7:09 AM *To:* nanog@nanog.org *Subject:* Re: CISA: Guidance on the Essential Critical Infrastructure Workforce
I hope they give them masks, and ideally total body coverage, one time use, like One Time Passwords.
I really hope it.
Lots of key workers here without masks.
I dont know whether you know the joke about going to war without weapons. We did kid about Russians doing that in WWII, and about others in WW1.
If you do not have masks, please make mask yourself, do it yourself, tissue, elastics, its easy; cut a rear pocket from the jeans. Constalty wear it, but also when distanced from others remove it. One can see to a longer distance than one can breath the virus spread. But stay away and dont breath if mask down. It's also good to wear eye glasses, like 'shades', to avoid virus intake by the eyes.
When one shows face to others its good, somebody can tell have seen that person.
If you do wear gloves then make sure you change them after each time you touched something. Changing gloves involves a particular technique: whhen ungloving avoid touching the external side of glove with your skin.
Do not put your gloved hands in your elbow angle while waiting patiently and showing force (some security people wear gloves, then cough in elbow, and then display force by putting palms in elbow angle - 'croiser les bras', french).
Alex
Le 20/03/2020 à 07:27, colin johnston a écrit :
UK gov notification of key worker status inc Telecommunication/Data Centre workers
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-maintaining-...
Col
On 19 Mar 2020, at 21:36, Sean Donelan <sean@donelan.com <mailto:sean@donelan.com>> wrote:
The U.S. Cyber and Infrastructure Security Agency (part of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security) has issued new Guidance on the Essential Critical Infrastructure Workforce.
The memorandum is advisory, not presecriptive. DHS is only one of several agencies assigned some National Essential Functions so it is not exhaustive list. It looks like someone found the three-ring emergency plan binders. Sad its needed, but appreciative of the experts which helped write those planning documents over the years.
https://www.cisa.gov/publication/guidance-essential-critical-infrastructure -workforce
[...] The attached list identifies workers who conduct a range of operations and services that are essential to continued critical infrastructure viability, including staffing operations centers, maintaining and repairing critical infrastructure, operating call centers, working construction, and performing management functions, among others. The industries they support represent, but are not necessarily limited to, medical and healthcare, telecommunications, information technology systems, defense, food and agriculture, transportation and logistics, energy, water and wastewater, law enforcement, and public works.
We recognize that State, local, tribal, and territorial governments are ultimately in charge of implementing and executing response activities in communities under their jurisdiction, while the Federal Government is in a supporting role. As State and local communities consider
COVID-19-related restrictions, CISA is offering this list to assist prioritizing activities related to continuity of operations and incident response, including the appropriate movement of critical infrastructure workers within and between jurisdictions.
Accordingly, this list is advisory in nature. It is not, nor should it be considered to be, a federal directive or standard in and of itself. [...]
On 20/Mar/20 15:53, Alexandre Petrescu wrote:
In France I must show a paper (not smartphone) printed permit, each sortie one different paper. The receiver of it (police) takes it in his/her gloved hands then s/he passes it back to me. I do not have gloves. I wished the receiver did not use the same gloves for each pereson who passes by and delivers that paper to him.
Yep, couldn't believe it when my mate in Lyon told me the same thing this week. But I suppose this was to be expected, and is an idea that could potentially spread, worldwide. Mark.
In France I must show a paper (not smartphone) printed permit, each sortie one different paper. The receiver of it (police) takes it in his/her gloved hands then s/he passes it back to me. I do not have gloves. I wished the receiver did not use the same gloves for each pereson who passes by and delivers that paper to him.
Yep, couldn't believe it when my mate in Lyon told me the same thing this week. But I suppose this was to be expected, and is an idea that could potentially spread, worldwide.
I’ve been in Paris all week, and have gone out, on average, once a day. I pre-printed a stack of already-filled-out forms at the beginning of the week, so I’ve just checked the appropriate box each time I’ve gone out, no big deal. Seems quite reasonable to me. Gets people to at least give some conscious thought as to whether their reason for going out actually meets one of the listed criteria. And I haven’t actually been stopped any of the times I’ve gone out. It’s early days yet, but Paris is handling this way, way better than I’d have expected. And a giant thumbs up to Free, who are keeping my 10G broadband flying along at an actual, measurable, 10G. -Bill
Le 21/03/2020 à 08:37, Bill Woodcock a écrit :
In France I must show a paper (not smartphone) printed permit, each sortie one different paper. The receiver of it (police) takes it in his/her gloved hands then s/he passes it back to me. I do not have gloves. I wished the receiver did not use the same gloves for each pereson who passes by and delivers that paper to him. Yep, couldn't believe it when my mate in Lyon told me the same thing this week. But I suppose this was to be expected, and is an idea that could potentially spread, worldwide. I’ve been in Paris all week, and have gone out, on average, once a day. I pre-printed a stack of already-filled-out forms at the beginning of the week, so I’ve just checked the appropriate box each time I’ve gone out, no big deal. Seems quite reasonable to me. Gets people to at least give some conscious thought as to whether their reason for going out actually meets one of the listed criteria. And I haven’t actually been stopped any of the times I’ve gone out.
It’s early days yet, but Paris is handling this way, way better than I’d have expected.
YEs, it's early days. For the next days, we need forecast, like in weather forecast. There is no public forecast of this pandemy. But there is data. Data is more than just numbers of cases in various web sites. There is also correlation of cases and the dates and levels of declaration of confinement. The levels of confinement that arrive are relatively similar but with different names: close borders, close restaurants, close schools, close City level 1, close City level 2, close City level max. Each of these levels has a date, but the precise date is not centralized somewhere, and worse - not public. One has to watch thousands of public announcements to understand them. Or to ask those who one knows in that particular country, based on confidence. This is my forecast based on yesterday's public statements on TV from Authority and other public data sources including China and Italy, by revese engineering and local data to understand French: The peak of the wave (biggest number of new cases a day) in France will arrive at earliest somewhere between MArch 26th and MArch 29th. The length of the peak is about 10 to 22 days. At earliest we start going down the wave starting April 5th, and at latest we start going down that wave on April 22nd. This going down might be a rough descent (Codogno city in Italy had 0 cases after 2 weeks total confinement), or much slower (China Wuhan 0 cases yesterday, but China total increase New Cases still). That is the horizon. That might change for the better or for worse with (1) 'mutations' (a word I dont understand), with (2) the hopeful medication (Chloroquine of enterprise Sanofi, France; and Favipiravir, China Authority; and other molecules invoked by Doctors) and (3) capacity of people to understand restrictions to stay home, understand how propagation and transmission works and (4) capacity of law enforcement to enforce restrictions. To evaluate how a group of people understands what's happening, there are simple questions: is covid-19 a virus or an illness? is this an epidemy or a pandemy? One can compare that with how we went through understanding of AIDS, HIV (SIDA, VIH in French) and the relevant protections (condoms initially, tri-therapy these days if I understand it correctly). One can compare that to how we understand SARS (SRAS in France), H1N1, H5N1 terms. If we communicate these terms meaningfully then we understand one another meaningfully. There is no reason to compare this covid situation to 9/11 - this is more like a wave, that was more like shock and then go down slowly. It comes, slowly, but it comes. Alex, LF/HF 2
And a giant thumbs up to Free, who are keeping my 10G broadband flying along at an actual, measurable, 10G.
YEs, lucky you. Me I am on Free's ADSL 5mbit/s, I cant dare to upload all significant data to youtube, I refrain for later to do that. It saves me energy :-) LEt me add this to relate to Guidance in the topic of the email. There is a "handbook-covid19-prevention-treatment-China" in pdf format that someone sent me. 68 pages, 34mbyte. I did not read it. I received also other guides in pdf format dedicated to hospital person (the one that takes care of the ill person), but they are in other languages than French and English. I think they might all be on the Internet, and I hope people can access them freely, without intermediaries, and that they take time when appropriate. Alex
-Bill
On Sat, Mar 21, 2020, at 08:37, Bill Woodcock wrote:
And a giant thumbs up to Free, who are keeping my 10G broadband flying
Are you talking about the same Free.fr that depeered HE a few days ago and expects all IPv6(*) traffic from HE to arrive via their only transit - Cogent ? (*) close to 100% of their fixed customers having IPv6 enabled to CPE level.
That would only be a problem for people that single home to HE? I love HE but like Cogent it is probably not smart to have them as a single provider for IPv6. On the other hand I am surprised that a french company can single home with Cogent. My experience is that Cogent has insufficient connectivity in Europe for that to be a good idea. lør. 28. mar. 2020 11.14 skrev Radu-Adrian Feurdean < nanog@radu-adrian.feurdean.net>:
On Sat, Mar 21, 2020, at 08:37, Bill Woodcock wrote:
And a giant thumbs up to Free, who are keeping my 10G broadband flying
Are you talking about the same Free.fr that depeered HE a few days ago and expects all IPv6(*) traffic from HE to arrive via their only transit - Cogent ?
(*) close to 100% of their fixed customers having IPv6 enabled to CPE level.
Hello, On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 at 11:13, Radu-Adrian Feurdean <nanog@radu-adrian.feurdean.net> wrote:
Are you talking about the same Free.fr that depeered HE a few days ago and expects all IPv6(*) traffic from HE to arrive via their only transit - Cogent ?
Cogent is not their only transit; at the moment at least I see both v4 and v6 prefixes perfectly reachable via 3356. -lukas
https://radar.qrator.net/as12322/providers#startDate=2019-12-27&endDate=2020-03-27&tab=current ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lukas Tribus" <lists@ltri.eu> To: "Radu-Adrian Feurdean" <nanog@radu-adrian.feurdean.net> Cc: "Laura via NANOG Eilers" <nanog@nanog.org> Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 12:24:23 PM Subject: Re: CISA: Guidance on the Essential Critical Infrastructure Workforce Hello, On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 at 11:13, Radu-Adrian Feurdean <nanog@radu-adrian.feurdean.net> wrote:
Are you talking about the same Free.fr that depeered HE a few days ago and expects all IPv6(*) traffic from HE to arrive via their only transit - Cogent ?
Cogent is not their only transit; at the moment at least I see both v4 and v6 prefixes perfectly reachable via 3356. -lukas
On Sat, Mar 28, 2020, at 19:52, Mike Hammett wrote:
https://radar.qrator.net/as12322/providers#startDate=2019-12-27&endDate=2020-03-27&tab=current
Did you read the part about *IPv6* traffic ? Your link points to some IPv*4* relationship. Over IPv6, you get this : https://radar.qrator.net/as12322/ipv6-providers#startDate=2019-12-29&endDate=2020-03-29&tab=current Note the "Active Now" part, which is only active for Cogent. And then, rather than taking QRator (which does a good job and has interesting information on a number of things - who buys transit from who *NOT* being one of those things - or at least not the public information) as word of absolute truth, did you test that bgp.he.net thinks about this ? Since HE is one of the parties, it does make sense to check their tools to see their point of view. Long story short: - Free.fr in known in France (where I happen to live and work) for only having Cogent as a transit for the last few years. - they are also known to peer (like "only exchange own routes and customer routes") with some "very big" networks (usually called "tier-1") : level3 and zayo among them. - Cogent and HE over IPv6 ... I suppose everybody knows the story..... - Free.fr depeered he.net about one week ago... There have been some exchanges of tentative traceroutes in both directions on FRnOG (French NOG) and things are clear : free.fr and he.net cannot exchange IPv6 traffic.
I did error somewhere, yes. If I didn't read that part, didn't send the right link, etc. Not sure. Yeah, single-homed on Cogent IPv6 is a problem. Maybe I just assumed that if you had transit from someone, that you got IPv4 and IPv6 service with them. Who doesn't do that? ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Radu-Adrian Feurdean" <nanog@radu-adrian.feurdean.net> To: "NANOG" <nanog@nanog.org> Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 10:22:24 PM Subject: Free.fr vs HE.net IPv6 (Was: CISA: Guidance on the Essential Critical Infrastructure Workforce) On Sat, Mar 28, 2020, at 19:52, Mike Hammett wrote:
https://radar.qrator.net/as12322/providers#startDate=2019-12-27&endDate=2020-03-27&tab=current
Did you read the part about *IPv6* traffic ? Your link points to some IPv*4* relationship. Over IPv6, you get this : https://radar.qrator.net/as12322/ipv6-providers#startDate=2019-12-29&endDate=2020-03-29&tab=current Note the "Active Now" part, which is only active for Cogent. And then, rather than taking QRator (which does a good job and has interesting information on a number of things - who buys transit from who *NOT* being one of those things - or at least not the public information) as word of absolute truth, did you test that bgp.he.net thinks about this ? Since HE is one of the parties, it does make sense to check their tools to see their point of view. Long story short: - Free.fr in known in France (where I happen to live and work) for only having Cogent as a transit for the last few years. - they are also known to peer (like "only exchange own routes and customer routes") with some "very big" networks (usually called "tier-1") : level3 and zayo among them. - Cogent and HE over IPv6 ... I suppose everybody knows the story..... - Free.fr depeered he.net about one week ago... There have been some exchanges of tentative traceroutes in both directions on FRnOG (French NOG) and things are clear : free.fr and he.net cannot exchange IPv6 traffic.
Single homed on Cogent.* is a problem. Their network is known for being cheap, not resilient. Last time I was involved in a Cogent install for a customer, all of their distribution devices connected to a SINGLE core at a major south-central US carrier hotel. True device redundancy required a wave to another building. Pretty of absurd IMO for a carrier that likes to play “holier than thou” with peering. -Matt On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 9:42 AM Mike Hammett <nanog@ics-il.net> wrote:
I did error somewhere, yes. If I didn't read that part, didn't send the right link, etc. Not sure.
Yeah, single-homed on Cogent IPv6 is a problem.
Maybe I just assumed that if you had transit from someone, that you got IPv4 and IPv6 service with them. Who doesn't do that?
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> ------------------------------ *From: *"Radu-Adrian Feurdean" <nanog@radu-adrian.feurdean.net> *To: *"NANOG" <nanog@nanog.org> *Sent: *Saturday, March 28, 2020 10:22:24 PM *Subject: *Free.fr vs HE.net IPv6 (Was: CISA: Guidance on the Essential Critical Infrastructure Workforce)
On Sat, Mar 28, 2020, at 19:52, Mike Hammett wrote:
https://radar.qrator.net/as12322/providers#startDate=2019-12-27&endDate=2020-03-27&tab=current
Did you read the part about *IPv6* traffic ? Your link points to some IPv*4* relationship. Over IPv6, you get this :
https://radar.qrator.net/as12322/ipv6-providers#startDate=2019-12-29&endDate=2020-03-29&tab=current
Note the "Active Now" part, which is only active for Cogent.
And then, rather than taking QRator (which does a good job and has interesting information on a number of things - who buys transit from who *NOT* being one of those things - or at least not the public information) as word of absolute truth, did you test that bgp.he.net thinks about this ? Since HE is one of the parties, it does make sense to check their tools to see their point of view.
Long story short: - Free.fr in known in France (where I happen to live and work) for only having Cogent as a transit for the last few years. - they are also known to peer (like "only exchange own routes and customer routes") with some "very big" networks (usually called "tier-1") : level3 and zayo among them. - Cogent and HE over IPv6 ... I suppose everybody knows the story..... - Free.fr depeered he.net about one week ago...
There have been some exchanges of tentative traceroutes in both directions on FRnOG (French NOG) and things are clear : free.fr and he.net cannot exchange IPv6 traffic.
-- Matt Erculiani ERCUL-ARIN
LF/HF Le 21/03/2020 à 03:24, Mark Tinka a écrit :
On 20/Mar/20 15:53, Alexandre Petrescu wrote:
In France I must show a paper (not smartphone) printed permit, each sortie one different paper. The receiver of it (police) takes it in his/her gloved hands then s/he passes it back to me. I do not have gloves. I wished the receiver did not use the same gloves for each pereson who passes by and delivers that paper to him.
Yep, couldn't believe it when my mate in Lyon told me the same thing this week.
But I suppose this was to be expected, and is an idea that could potentially spread, worldwide.
Today first time I see in FRance TV news one interviewer puts one time-use covers over the microphones when interviewing people. (it's a one time cover in addition to the typical windshield which is expensive and cant be changed each time). Only today. Many days lost, many viruses spread. Still on tables on all TV channels I watch they dont have covers on microphones. Alex
Mark.
On 21/Mar/20 14:38, Alexandre Petrescu wrote:
Today first time I see in FRance TV news one interviewer puts one time-use covers over the microphones when interviewing people. (it's a one time cover in addition to the typical windshield which is expensive and cant be changed each time). Only today. Many days lost, many viruses spread.
Still on tables on all TV channels I watch they dont have covers on microphones.
There was a time when the Coronavirus issue was evolving monthly. Then weekly. Then daily. What I tell all my friends is things are now evolving hourly. What you knew when you went to bed will be wildly different when you wake up. Just today, several countries in Africa have shutdown airports and borders. This wasn't the case 12hrs ago. The rate of change is exponential. Mark.
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