Gordon, You should know better -- the edge, economically, always wins. This is where the money is. And this _is_ a busines, no longer a science experiment. But this eventual discussion does not belong here... - ferg -- Gordon Cook <cook@cookreport.com> wrote: But John Seely Brown, ex ceo of xerox parc doesn't believe it. He and john Hagel have a new book saying that capabilities for wealth creation are found at the edge. (The title is The Only Sustainable Edge.) If these guys are right, and i think they are, then edge based community owned and operated networks are the only way forward. -- "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson Engineering Architecture for the Internet fergdawg@netzero.net or fergdawg@sbcglobal.net ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/