Did I miss some discussion about the Beer and Gear surprise? I, personally, feel somewhat cheated that there was no "gear" available from the vendors in attendance.
I did not spend money to come out to Atlanta to get hit upon by vendors. ... I don't even see the point of continuing to have the the Beer and Gear part.
I have the same opinion. Having recently left the ISP competitive rat-race to join the equipment rat-race, I attended as one of the vendor sponsors. We followed all the rules to avoid "hitting" on anyone, but it was only after we committed to the sponsorship that we learned we couldn't give out "gear" to improve name recognition. Why is the event called "beer 'n gear" if I can't hand out T shirts and schwag? Like the above writer, I always looked forward to collecting a drawerful of T shirts and trivia at past NANOG beer 'n gears. Data sheets and business cards are kinda boring. Will I need to wear a tie next time? ;-) -rich
Why is the event called "beer 'n gear" if I can't hand out T shirts and schwag? Like the above writer, I always looked forward to collecting a drawerful of T shirts and trivia at past NANOG beer 'n gears.
"Gear" derives from the fact that equipment vendors are invited to bring hardware to talk about. Sometimes we've had a bunch, sometimes not so much. The vendors decide whether they want to bring equipment, though - as has been pointed out, there's a non-trivial expense involved. Perhaps you might suggest that, in the event that trinkets return, the name of the session be changed to "Beer and Gear and Trinkets" when you fill out your survey form. Stephen
On Wed, 21 Feb 2001, Stephen Stuart wrote:
Perhaps you might suggest that, in the event that trinkets return, the name of the session be changed to "Beer and Gear and Trinkets" when you fill out your survey form.
The Merit people spend an incredible amount of time and effort doing this conference so we (the spoiled brats) can get together face to face and discuss our day jobs and instead of thanking them, we're whining up a storm over some pieces of schwag? Running something this large and running it this well is _hard_, folks. If we had some ham, we could have a ham and cheese sandwich if we had some cheese. /vijay
The Merit people spend an incredible amount of time and effort doing this conference so we (the spoiled brats) can get together face to face and discuss our day jobs and instead of thanking them, we're whining up a storm over some pieces of schwag?
Running something this large and running it this well is _hard_, folks.
If we had some ham, we could have a ham and cheese sandwich if we had some cheese.
and some bread let them eat cake
On Wed, 21 Feb 2001, Randy Bush wrote:
let them eat cake
the OED on matters of taste - (the subject being boxer shorts and those damned "IP everywhere" t-shirts) "taste, n.1 8. a. The sense of what is appropriate, harmonious, or beautiful; esp. discernment and appreciation of the beautiful in nature or art; spec. the faculty of perceiving and enjoying what is excellent in art, literature, and the like. 1694 CONGREVE Double Dealer I. ii, No, no, hang him, he has no Taste. b. Style or manner exhibiting æsthetic discernment; good or bad æsthetic quality; the style or manner favoured in any age or country. tasteless, a. 4. Devoid of good taste; of persons, lacking in discrimination, or in critical discernment and appreciation; of things, showing want of good taste. 1676 G. ETHEREGE Man of Mode III. ii, Nature..puts sophisticate dulness often on the tasteless multitude for true wit and good-humour. tastelessness 3. Absence or want of æsthetic discernment. 1825 Blackw. Mag. XVIII. 240 Others assign it to the nonchalance and tastelessness of managers" ----- Need I mention that I wear neither boxer shorts nor t-shirts and the number of tasteful give aways is always pretty small (although I have to say Aviva's Juniper shirt was nice). Seems like the lure at beer & gear should be the chance to talk to an engineer instead of some marketing droid and I thought the beer was the bally - Lucy E. Lynch Academic User Services Computing Center University of Oregon llynch@darkwing.uoregon.edu (541) 346-1774 Cell: (541) 912-7998 5419127998@mobile.att.net
Please people. How about the engineer who wishes to socialize with his/her peers at NANOG but is perhaps a recovering alcoholic. Don't you suppose that perhaps the "Beer" part of the Beer and Gear might be offensive to him/her? How about those who just don't like the "taste" of beer? If you don't like the trinkets, don't take them. Do the rest of us a favor though and don't whine about it ON AND ON AND ON! You're entitled to your opinions and we (for now) respect those opinions. Continue to complain about something that is 100% "participation optional" and considered a benefit by some and you can replace the "for now" above with "used to". 'nuff said. --- John Fraizer EnterZone, Inc On Wed, 21 Feb 2001, Lucy E. Lynch wrote:
On Wed, 21 Feb 2001, Randy Bush wrote:
let them eat cake
the OED on matters of taste -
(the subject being boxer shorts and those damned "IP everywhere" t-shirts)
"taste, n.1 8. a. The sense of what is appropriate, harmonious, or beautiful; esp. discernment and appreciation of the beautiful in nature or art; spec. the faculty of perceiving and enjoying what is excellent in art, literature, and the like.
1694 CONGREVE Double Dealer I. ii, No, no, hang him, he has no Taste.
b. Style or manner exhibiting �sthetic discernment; good or bad �sthetic quality; the style or manner favoured in any age or country.
tasteless, a. 4. Devoid of good taste; of persons, lacking in discrimination, or in critical discernment and appreciation; of things, showing want of good taste.
1676 G. ETHEREGE Man of Mode III. ii, Nature..puts sophisticate dulness often on the tasteless multitude for true wit and good-humour.
tastelessness 3. Absence or want of �sthetic discernment.
1825 Blackw. Mag. XVIII. 240 Others assign it to the nonchalance and tastelessness of managers"
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Need I mention that I wear neither boxer shorts nor t-shirts and the number of tasteful give aways is always pretty small (although I have to say Aviva's Juniper shirt was nice).
Seems like the lure at beer & gear should be the chance to talk to an engineer instead of some marketing droid and I thought the beer was the bally -
Lucy E. Lynch Academic User Services Computing Center University of Oregon llynch@darkwing.uoregon.edu (541) 346-1774 Cell: (541) 912-7998 5419127998@mobile.att.net
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Vijay Gill