I just read (http://www.internews.com/isp-news/1998/06/0301-bell.html) that Bell Atlantic is looking to finally roll out xDSL. However, not as a wholesale, unbundled service, but as an Internet service which will directly compete against ISPs. While I do believe that BA and the rest of the iLECs have the right to compete in their market, I don't think they should have the right to put private, unsubsidized businesses out of business by using their utility based advantages. Additionally, how is it that a "regulated monopoly" is able to transit service outside of the LATA (such as is required with Internet service)? IS this Bell's way of getting into LD, through packet switching? Does anyone know, now that BA has announced that they will provide ADSL internet services, if they provide a similar, tarriffed, unbundled xDSL service by which a local, regional or national ISP could provide a competitively priced service? How does a ten million dollar a year company serve in a market with a 10 billion dollar a year company? Is there a way for us "little guys" to compete against the behemoths? Has anyone had similar experiences with their primary iLEC (such as PACBell and US West)? Hoping for good news, Jonathan Arneault Director of Business Development CMA / INet Solutions Division 518.783.9003 x 253
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I just read (http://www.internews.com/isp-news/1998/06/0301-bell.html) that Bell Atlantic is looking to finally roll out xDSL. However, not as a wholesale, unbundled service, but as an Internet service which will directly compete against ISPs.
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On Wed, 3 Jun 1998, Jonathan Arneault wrote:
I just read (http://www.internews.com/isp-news/1998/06/0301-bell.html) that Bell Atlantic is looking to finally roll out xDSL. However, not as a wholesale, unbundled service, but as an Internet service which will directly compete against ISPs. [snip] for us "little guys" to compete against the behemoths? Has anyone had similar experiences with their primary iLEC (such as PACBell and US West)?
US West just rolled out RADSL in Utah. $40/month for a 256k bi-directional DSL line USWEST.NET, US West's ISP, will sell you dedicated internet access over that connection for $19.95/month. Of course, the number to order either service is the same. Of course when you call to order the DSL line they might give you a hard sell to also sign-up with USWEST.NET. Of course they might give out inconsistent and false information that changes with every time you talk to them. We are a DSL enabled ISP. Our first DSL customer ordered his DSL line and told them he wanted us as his ISP. When the installed his line, they mapped him to USWEST.NET's ISP!!! I also know of two other confirmed cases were the customer chose a local DSL ISP, and they mapped them instead to USWEST.NET. I could go on and on about the VERY APPALLING situation here with USW and DSL and Internet access, about regulated and unregulated services, etc, etc. Dax Kelson Internet Connect, Inc.
I just read (http://www.internews.com/isp-news/1998/06/0301-bell.html) that Bell Atlantic is looking to finally roll out xDSL. However, not as a wholesale, unbundled service, but as an Internet service which will directly compete against ISPs.
Please see http://www.bellatlantic.com/adsl/. Bell Atlantic has been doing ADSL through ISPs in it's Virginia test. Unbundled service (aka, bring your own ISP) is: 640 Kbps - $39.95 1.6 Mbps - $59.95 7.1 Mbps - $109.95 ADSL Modem - $325.00 NIC - $20+ (brand and what not) Bundled service: 640 Kbps - $69.95 1.6 Mbps - $109.95 7.1 Mbps - $189.95 ADSL Modem - $325.00 Service Connection Charge (Setup Fee) - $99.00 Home Installation - $99.00 NIC - $40 - $60 (from BA) With a 12 month commitment, Bell Atlantic will wave the $325.00 ADSL modem cost. This pricing is pretty much unrealistic for residential users. Most customers complain about paying $19.95, let alone $69.95. On another note, it seems Sprint will be offereing ADSL services as well.
From what I understand, they setup a multibillion dollar network to handle local & long distance ADSL service.
Also on the East coast, Cable modems are going commercial... currently in my area 512 Kbps runs $40/month flat w/ $99.00 installation and no Cable modem cost. Jordan -- Jordan Mendelson : http://jordy.wserv.com Web Services, Inc. : http://www.wserv.com
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