Question on the registration of addresses from an assigned block
CICNet has several blocks of address from which we assign numbers. Some of the sites to whom we have assigned numbers have requested that the NIC register their DNS machines for inverse mapping of the addresses. The NIC recently sent the message below to one of those sites. My question is: Are other providers that have blocks they are assigning addresses out of removing those address from their own blocks (in the words of the NIC)? In other words, is everyone sending to the NIC the information for the site that gets a specific address? If the addresses are taken out of the block and assigned to the site, then it pretty much makes a moot point of the arguements about taking back address if a customer moves to another provider. Tom ========================================================================= This is an acknowledgement of your recent request. It has been reviewed by our registration staff and is being returned in order that additional information be provided. In order to register networks in our database and remove them from the block of the regional provider, (192.217.4.0) the InterNIC requires the following information: 1) Network name and Number. 2) The Name, postal mailing address and telephone number of the Technical Point-of-Contact for the network. 3) The Name and postal address of the organization who has been assigned the network number contained in the request. We will be happy to honor your request as soon as we receive this information. This information is also required to process all related IN-ADDR requests. You may send this information to: HOSTMASTER@INTERNIC.NET Regards, Hostmaster Staff / InterNIC Registration Services =========================================================================
On Wed, 28 Jul 1993, Thomas Easterday wrote:
address? If the addresses are taken out of the block and assigned to the site, then it pretty much makes a moot point of the arguements about taking back address if a customer moves to another provider.
I haven't been around the regional scene long enough to have heard all the arguments for/against this, but I can imagine that the issue of who "owns" addresses may eventually end up in the courts (horrors). One could probably make an argument that addresses should belong to the site rather than the provider since, if this were not the case, competition between providers would be stifled (i.e. sites with large numbers of hosts would be forced to include the costs of changing all their addresses when thinking about going with a lower cost or more feature rich provider. Perhaps a technical solution--other than BOOTP-- to alleviate this burden would make the issue go away?). I'm aware of the routing issues which, I assume, providers would use in their arguments for "owning" addresses. Of course, I don't "own" my phone number (at least not yet anyway...) At any rate, I'd appreciate references to papers that discuss these issues... Allen Robel Internet: allen@nwnet.net Network Engineer voice: (206)562-3000 NorthWestNet FAX: (206)562-4822
-------- ] From: Thomas Easterday <tom@cic.net> ] Subject: Question on the registration of addresses from an assigned block ] Date: Wed, 28 Jul 93 11:08:18 -0400 ] ] CICNet has several blocks of address from which we assign numbers. ] ] Some of the sites to whom we have assigned numbers have requested ] that the NIC register their DNS machines for inverse mapping of ] the addresses. The NIC recently sent the message below to one of those ] sites. ] ] My question is: Are other providers that have blocks they are assigning ] addresses out of removing those address from their own blocks ] (in the words of the NIC)? In other words, is everyone sending ] to the NIC the information for the site that gets a specific ] address? If the addresses are taken out of the block and ] assigned to the site, then it pretty much makes a moot point ] of the arguements about taking back address if a customer moves ] to another provider. We do assign the addresses to the customer. We have not been telling customers that they _must_ give back the addresses if they change provider, since that would be an unusual burden to transition. We do tell customers to get their networks from the same location to insure that they can be aggregated. /John
We do reassign our nets to our customers. We typically send to the NIC a copy of the internet-number-template with the new information filled in and something like "please reassign net X.Y.Z according to the information on this form" at the top. Note that we have 198.3.*, so we have arranged with the NIC to have 3.198.IN-ADDR.ARPA delegated to our nameservers, so IN-ADDR requests for any 198.3.X nets are done by us directly, and not the NIC. --asp@uunet.uu.net (Andrew Partan)
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