Good quotes on importance of good network addressing
I'm doing a presentation and white paper to convince a bunch of people that network addressing is one of (if not the most) important aspect of network design and management. The goal is to convince them that we need a plan, which will probably require them to do some renumbering. I'm looking for a couple of good quotes to include in the presentation. Anyone got some good ones from some Internet/network luminaries? Something to confirm the importance of a generally boring topic. Thanks. Pete.
On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 01:10:15PM -0600, pete@kruckenberg.com said:
I'm doing a presentation and white paper to convince a bunch of people that network addressing is one of (if not the most) important aspect of network design and management. The goal is to convince them that we need a plan, which will probably require them to do some renumbering.
I'm looking for a couple of good quotes to include in the presentation. Anyone got some good ones from some Internet/network luminaries? Something to confirm the importance of a generally boring topic.
Not sure how applicable it may be, but the OpenBSD FAQ has referenced (since at least 2.7) a paper called "Understanding IP Addressing" that I found to be pretty useful. http://www.3com.com/corpinfo/en_US/technology/tech_paper.jsp?DOC_ID=135 http://www.3com.com/other/pdfs/infra/corpinfo/en_US/501302.pdf -- -= Scott Francis || darkuncle (at) darkuncle (dot) net =- GPG key CB33CCA7 has been revoked; I am now 5537F527 illum oportet crescere me autem minui
On Thursday 3 October 2002, at 12 h 23, Scott Francis <darkuncle@darkuncle.net> wrote:
Not sure how applicable it may be, but the OpenBSD FAQ has referenced (since at least 2.7) a paper called "Understanding IP Addressing" that I found to = be pretty useful. http://www.3com.com/corpinfo/en_US/technology/tech_paper.jsp?DOC_ID=3D135 http://www.3com.com/other/pdfs/infra/corpinfo/en_US/501302.pdf
It seems quite old and not very practical : * it never mentions RFC 1219, * it mentions IPv6 in a few words, without any practical considerations, * it explains the old classfull addressing first, instead of talking CIDR right from the beginning.
On Mon, Oct 07, 2002 at 09:49:28AM +0200, bortzmeyer@gitoyen.net said:
On Thursday 3 October 2002, at 12 h 23, Scott Francis <darkuncle@darkuncle.net> wrote:
Not sure how applicable it may be, but the OpenBSD FAQ has referenced (since at least 2.7) a paper called "Understanding IP Addressing" that I found to = be pretty useful. http://www.3com.com/corpinfo/en_US/technology/tech_paper.jsp?DOC_ID=3D135 http://www.3com.com/other/pdfs/infra/corpinfo/en_US/501302.pdf
It seems quite old and not very practical :
* it never mentions RFC 1219, * it mentions IPv6 in a few words, without any practical considerations, * it explains the old classfull addressing first, instead of talking CIDR right from the beginning.
Well, like I said ... it's been referenced since at least 2.7 (3 years ago or more) and I'm not sure how applicable it may be. :) I'm pretty sure the paper was written before IPv6 was much more than a lab experiment. It _was_ useful to me, but I was familiar with CIDR before I read the paper, so ... For those with no prior experience in IP addressing, it can provide a nice bit of historical background. While classful addressing may be passe, knowing one's history never hurts. -- -= Scott Francis || darkuncle (at) darkuncle (dot) net =- GPG key CB33CCA7 has been revoked; I am now 5537F527 illum oportet crescere me autem minui
For those with no prior experience in IP addressing, it can provide a nice bit of historical background. While classful addressing may be passe, knowing one's history never hurts.
especially as we see echos of mistakes past being made in the v6 model, assigning large blocks, /64 point-to-point-links (ever had to untangle an old /24 p2p network caused by rip?), ... randy
Did you dig out the old renumbering RFC from the PIER working group, circa 1995 or 96 (I think)?
-----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of Pete Kruckenberg Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 2:10 PM To: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Good quotes on importance of good network addressing
I'm doing a presentation and white paper to convince a bunch of people that network addressing is one of (if not the most) important aspect of network design and management. The goal is to convince them that we need a plan, which will probably require them to do some renumbering.
I'm looking for a couple of good quotes to include in the presentation. Anyone got some good ones from some Internet/network luminaries? Something to confirm the importance of a generally boring topic.
Thanks. Pete.
On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, Pete Kruckenberg wrote: :I'm doing a presentation and white paper to convince a bunch :of people that network addressing is one of (if not the :most) important aspect of network design and management. The :goal is to convince them that we need a plan, which will :probably require them to do some renumbering. I am not a network luminary, however, I had to explain the importance of DNS, particularly reverse lookups to an alleged network architect the other day. It went something like: "Network numbering and name resolution must be implemented in a way that meaningfully represents the connection between a network connected device and its business function." This doesn't address routing, scalability, or any of the other issues in network numbering, but as someone whose job it is to track down misbehaving hosts, this kind of meaningful information is critical. -- batz
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