Let me turn the question around a bit. Suppose N small providers peer at M places and together represent p% of the Internet. If they simply appear at one NAP and don't contract for transit, they may reach 100%-(%p/(M-1)) of the Internet. Is that something to encourage? If they must contract for transit and as a result reach all major interconnects, they get 100% (possibly minus a small epsilon for other reasons). They then don't need to be at any of the NAPs. Are some providers trying to show up at one NAP only with the aim of not contracting for transit through anyone even though they can't really reach others like themselves at a different interconnect?
Or, possible some small providers buy a multi-megabit circuit from a large provider who gives them transit. The small provider then connects at a single NAP and picks up bilateral peering sessions with a bunch of people there. The result is offloading traffic from their "transit link", which stands a good chance of being priced as a "burstable" link. (pay for what you use) That gives the small provider an economic incentive to operate in this manner. No comment on whether this is a good idea or bad, but I understand the thinking. davec
Or, possible some small providers buy a multi-megabit circuit from a large provider who gives them transit. The small provider then connects at a single NAP and picks up bilateral peering sessions with a bunch of people there. The result is offloading traffic from their "transit link", which stands a good chance of being priced as a "burstable" link. (pay for what you use) That gives the small provider an economic incentive to operate in this manner.
No comment on whether this is a good idea or bad, but I understand the thinking.
davec
Quite a few CIX members operate this way. The interesting question in my mind is whether the "big guys" (defaultless nets, for the purposes of this discussion) think that this represents unfair competition or not.
] > Or, possible some small providers buy a multi-megabit circuit from a ] > large provider who gives them transit. The small provider then connects ] > at a single NAP and picks up bilateral peering sessions with a bunch ] > of people there. The result is offloading traffic from their ] > "transit link", which stands a good chance of being priced as a ] > "burstable" link. (pay for what you use) That gives the small ] > provider an economic incentive to operate in this manner. ] Quite a few CIX members operate this way. The interesting question in my ] mind is whether the "big guys" (defaultless nets, for the purposes of this ] discussion) think that this represents unfair competition or not. We've a defaultless net, but I'm not sure that I'm considered a 'Big Guy'. Hell, we only route 1% of the internet, but maybe if I lost my aggregates I could be bigger ;) The hidden metric that davec above doesn't consider is latency. If I peer at a NAP, I forgo the latency my upstream 'multi-megabit circuit' incurs. This is a consideration, you know. -alan
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Alan Hannan
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Dave Curado
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Paul A Vixie