-----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu] On Behalf Of Andy Dills Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 3:42 PM To: Ralph Doncaster Cc: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: ASN registry?

On Mon, 19 Aug 2002, Ralph Doncaster wrote:

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I've always used whois.arin.net to check ASN registrations, and

until now

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it's always had information on those that I've checked. It doesn't have anything for 1221, which according to route-views.oregon-ix.net is Telstra. Is there a single complete database that has ASN assignment info?

Well, when I can't find it quickly, I usually check RIPE, as the RIPE whois will tell you which region the ASN is delegated to, and which registrar to check with. And according to RIPE, 1221 is most definitely in the lower range controlled by ARIN. No idea why ARIN doesn't have a record for it...they only carry records for ASN 16779, which is Telstra-USA.

Andy

I noticed that as well. But a quick google shows that Telstra is most definitely AS1221. Maybe they forgot to renew one of their AS Numbers? Derek

On Mon, 19 Aug 2002, Michael Hallgren wrote:

aut-num AS1221, inverse as-name ASN-TELSTRA descr Telstra Pty Ltd descr Locked Bag No. 5744 descr GPO, Canberra, ACT, 2601 country AU admin-c GH105-AP, inverse tech-c DW187-AP, inverse remarks AS assigned by the former InterNIC mnt-by MAINT-AS1221, inverse changed hostmaster@apnic.net 20000131 source APNIC

Interesting. So then, how did that happen? as-block: AS1 - AS1876 descr: ARIN ASN block remarks: These AS numbers are further assigned by ARIN remarks: to ARIN members and end-users in the ARIN region admin-c: ARIN1-RIPE tech-c: ARIN1-RIPE mnt-by: RIPE-NCC-HM-MNT mnt-lower: RIPE-NCC-NONE-MNT changed: ripe-dbm@ripe.net 20010423 source: RIPE Is that just a general mess at the top where, in general, ARIN is in charge but not always? Or just a special situation? Andy xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Andy Dills 301-682-9972 Xecunet, LLC www.xecu.net xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Dialup * Webhosting * E-Commerce * High-Speed Access

At 04:10 PM 8/19/2002 -0400, Andy Dills wrote:

Interesting. So then, how did that happen?

as-block: AS1 - AS1876 descr: ARIN ASN block remarks: These AS numbers are further assigned by ARIN remarks: to ARIN members and end-users in the ARIN region admin-c: ARIN1-RIPE tech-c: ARIN1-RIPE mnt-by: RIPE-NCC-HM-MNT mnt-lower: RIPE-NCC-NONE-MNT changed: ripe-dbm@ripe.net 20010423 source: RIPE

Was most likely allocated before APNIC was in existence. -Steve