Comparing carrier hotels and colo: How much are you paying per 208V 30A circuit
a) How much, in $/mo b) To what degree is it protected (1+0 generator, 1+1 generator, N+1 generator, single UPS, 1+1 UPS, etc). c) What extent of diversity were you able to obtain vs. your other AC circuits (unique riser? separate transformer? separate power feed from second route into the building?)
L6-30s are probably the most common power drop in colocation. A) Is proprietary. I won’t pretend you will get zero answers, lots of people will likely break their NDAs. B) You can find any and all of those options. C) Ditto. Are you looking for specific cities or buildings? Or just trying to see if it is available? -- TTFN, patrick
On Aug 17, 2016, at 12:37 PM, Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuhnke@gmail.com> wrote:
a) How much, in $/mo
b) To what degree is it protected (1+0 generator, 1+1 generator, N+1 generator, single UPS, 1+1 UPS, etc).
c) What extent of diversity were you able to obtain vs. your other AC circuits (unique riser? separate transformer? separate power feed from second route into the building?)
Of course I know all of the above exist and are available. Looking more into the cost difference between facilities that sell 'basic' backed power (where you absolutely need to install your own rectifier and battery plant) vs facilities that sell 30A circuits they claim meet the definition of high availability. I have seen a lot of prices already and know that just the $/MRC for power is occasionally not under NDA, so those who wish to share their costs might do so in a general way without naming a specific facility... Looking at west coast states (CA/OR/WA) primarily. On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 9:41 AM, Patrick W. Gilmore <patrick@ianai.net> wrote:
L6-30s are probably the most common power drop in colocation.
A) Is proprietary. I won’t pretend you will get zero answers, lots of people will likely break their NDAs.
B) You can find any and all of those options.
C) Ditto.
Are you looking for specific cities or buildings? Or just trying to see if it is available?
-- TTFN, patrick
On Aug 17, 2016, at 12:37 PM, Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuhnke@gmail.com> wrote:
a) How much, in $/mo
b) To what degree is it protected (1+0 generator, 1+1 generator, N+1 generator, single UPS, 1+1 UPS, etc).
c) What extent of diversity were you able to obtain vs. your other AC circuits (unique riser? separate transformer? separate power feed from second route into the building?)
We’re grandfathered to power being available with rack, and $hundreds to $thousands per month for 208V/30A HA depending upon the facility. These sites are not West Coast. On Aug 17, 2016, at 11:48 AM, Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuhnke@gmail.com<mailto:eric.kuhnke@gmail.com>> wrote: Of course I know all of the above exist and are available. Looking more into the cost difference between facilities that sell 'basic' backed power (where you absolutely need to install your own rectifier and battery plant) vs facilities that sell 30A circuits they claim meet the definition of high availability. I have seen a lot of prices already and know that just the $/MRC for power is occasionally not under NDA, so those who wish to share their costs might do so in a general way without naming a specific facility... Looking at west coast states (CA/OR/WA) primarily. On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 9:41 AM, Patrick W. Gilmore <patrick@ianai.net<mailto:patrick@ianai.net>> wrote: L6-30s are probably the most common power drop in colocation. A) Is proprietary. I won’t pretend you will get zero answers, lots of people will likely break their NDAs. B) You can find any and all of those options. C) Ditto. Are you looking for specific cities or buildings? Or just trying to see if it is available? -- TTFN, patrick On Aug 17, 2016, at 12:37 PM, Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuhnke@gmail.com<mailto:eric.kuhnke@gmail.com>> wrote: a) How much, in $/mo b) To what degree is it protected (1+0 generator, 1+1 generator, N+1 generator, single UPS, 1+1 UPS, etc). c) What extent of diversity were you able to obtain vs. your other AC circuits (unique riser? separate transformer? separate power feed from second route into the building?) --- Keith Stokes
Indiana Data Centers: $600-900 per lit rack Chicago $1800 per lit rack Ohio $700-900 per lit rack Justin Wilson j2sw@mtin.net --- http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth http://www.midwest-ix.com COO/Chairman Internet Exchange - Peering - Distributed Fabric
On Aug 17, 2016, at 12:37 PM, Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuhnke@gmail.com> wrote:
a) How much, in $/mo
b) To what degree is it protected (1+0 generator, 1+1 generator, N+1 generator, single UPS, 1+1 UPS, etc).
c) What extent of diversity were you able to obtain vs. your other AC circuits (unique riser? separate transformer? separate power feed from second route into the building?)
Assuming a single 208/30 feed, he also asked about redundancy. On Aug 17, 2016 5:23 PM, "Justin Wilson" <lists@mtin.net> wrote:
Indiana Data Centers: $600-900 per lit rack
Chicago $1800 per lit rack
Ohio $700-900 per lit rack
Justin Wilson j2sw@mtin.net
--- http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth
http://www.midwest-ix.com COO/Chairman Internet Exchange - Peering - Distributed Fabric
On Aug 17, 2016, at 12:37 PM, Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuhnke@gmail.com> wrote:
a) How much, in $/mo
b) To what degree is it protected (1+0 generator, 1+1 generator, N+1 generator, single UPS, 1+1 UPS, etc).
c) What extent of diversity were you able to obtain vs. your other AC circuits (unique riser? separate transformer? separate power feed from second route into the building?)
And the price difference between the many possibly varying levels of redundancy. On Aug 17, 2016 3:38 PM, "Josh Reynolds" <josh@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
Assuming a single 208/30 feed, he also asked about redundancy.
On Aug 17, 2016 5:23 PM, "Justin Wilson" <lists@mtin.net> wrote:
Indiana Data Centers: $600-900 per lit rack
Chicago $1800 per lit rack
Ohio $700-900 per lit rack
Justin Wilson j2sw@mtin.net
--- http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth
http://www.midwest-ix.com COO/Chairman Internet Exchange - Peering - Distributed Fabric
On Aug 17, 2016, at 12:37 PM, Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuhnke@gmail.com> wrote:
a) How much, in $/mo
b) To what degree is it protected (1+0 generator, 1+1 generator, N+1 generator, single UPS, 1+1 UPS, etc).
c) What extent of diversity were you able to obtain vs. your other AC circuits (unique riser? separate transformer? separate power feed from second route into the building?)
In San Francisco, CA one can get a cabinet with redundant A+B power, 120V/30A per circuit, for under $2,000/month.208V circuits will be more expensive.--andrei From: Justin Wilson <lists@mtin.net> To: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 3:20 PM Subject: Re: Comparing carrier hotels and colo: How much are you paying per 208V 30A circuit Indiana Data Centers: $600-900 per lit rack Chicago $1800 per lit rack Ohio $700-900 per lit rack Justin Wilson j2sw@mtin.net --- http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth http://www.midwest-ix.com COO/Chairman Internet Exchange - Peering - Distributed Fabric
On Aug 17, 2016, at 12:37 PM, Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuhnke@gmail.com> wrote:
a) How much, in $/mo
b) To what degree is it protected (1+0 generator, 1+1 generator, N+1 generator, single UPS, 1+1 UPS, etc).
c) What extent of diversity were you able to obtain vs. your other AC circuits (unique riser? separate transformer? separate power feed from second route into the building?)
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