Re: Fire protection in ISPs and collocation facilities
Several people have asked where can they obtain a copy of the US Air Force draft. Engineering Technical Letter (ETL) 00-3: Fire Protection Engineering Criteria - Electronic Equipment Installations http://www.afcesa.af.mil/Publications/Drafts/ETL00-3Draft.pdf I find it interesting how the designs created by people who have to operate an installation are different from the designs from consultants and vendors, or even the National Fire Protection Association. Or commercials on television like those being run by Janus. But back to my original question. What is the real fire risk for ISPs and collocation operators. Is it burned buttered popcorn in the microwave setting off the FM-200 system? Is it home-made computers? Is it the Emergency Power Off switch? State Farm Insurance has started a project to change the National Electrical Code for computer rooms and the requirement for an EPO switch. Is this something other ISPs and collocation providers would be interested in seeing changed? If so, we need to collect data and evidence to support the change.
At 5:56 PM -0800 11/4/2000, Sean Donelan wrote:
But back to my original question. What is the real fire risk for ISPs and collocation operators. Is it burned buttered popcorn in the microwave setting off the FM-200 system? Is it home-made computers? Is it the Emergency Power Off switch?
State Farm Insurance has started a project to change the National Electrical Code for computer rooms and the requirement for an EPO switch. Is this something other ISPs and collocation providers would be interested in seeing changed? If so, we need to collect data and evidence to support the change.
Perhaps it's worth observing that fire is but one of the classic Elemental Forces, and I've personally had far more problems with water than with fire. In my experiences, the water came from firefighting elsewhere in the building, but several instances of CO flooding and the like have been mentioned in recent posts--New Rochelle (?) AT&T vs. Verizon? While I doubt it's practical to develop exhaustive water protection measures to guard against large-scale flooding, unless there's a move to convert surplus submarines to colo centers, I'd like to see the fire protection code be more exhaustive about diverting water away from unaffected faciities.
On Sun, 5 Nov 2000, Howard C. Berkowitz wrote:
While I doubt it's practical to develop exhaustive water protection measures to guard against large-scale flooding, unless there's a move to convert surplus submarines to colo centers, I'd like to see the fire protection code be more exhaustive about diverting water away from unaffected faciities.
Try: http://www.subexpo.com/index2.htm -travis
"Howard C. Berkowitz" wrote:
At 5:56 PM -0800 11/4/2000, Sean Donelan wrote:
But back to my original question. What is the real fire risk for ISPs and collocation operators. Is it burned buttered popcorn in the microwave setting off the FM-200 system? Is it home-made computers? Is it the Emergency Power Off switch?
State Farm Insurance has started a project to change the National Electrical Code for computer rooms and the requirement for an EPO switch. Is this something other ISPs and collocation providers would be interested in seeing changed? If so, we need to collect data and evidence to support the change.
Perhaps it's worth observing that fire is but one of the classic Elemental Forces, and I've personally had far more problems with water than with fire. In my experiences, the water came from firefighting elsewhere in the building, but several instances of CO flooding and the like have been mentioned in recent posts--New Rochelle (?) AT&T vs. Verizon?
While I doubt it's practical to develop exhaustive water protection measures to guard against large-scale flooding, unless there's a move to convert surplus submarines to colo centers, I'd like to see the fire protection code be more exhaustive about diverting water away from unaffected faciities.
In Fairfax and Loudon Counties here in Virginia, fire codes require water for fire suppression (you can use other means, but you have to have water). So all the co-lo and exchange facilities here have pressurised water fire suppression. I have been surprised at how many of these do not have DRAINS for the water. In my real estate experience, whenever you have the possibility of water release, you will eventually HAVE water release. With no drains, that means you will have to move the equipment out to get the water out... Regards Marshall Eubanks Multicast Technologies, Inc. 10301 Democracy Lane, Suite 201 Fairfax, Virginia 22030 Phone : 703-293-9624 Fax : 703-293-9609 e-mail : tme@on-the-i.com http://www.on-the-i.com
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