Re: non-op (Re: Definition of Tier-1)
On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 09:46:05AM -0400, Travis Pugh wrote:
The part that really drives me crazy is that nobody seems to have played the "tier 2 and proud" card from a marketing standpoint. I can think of a few reasons why I'd rather not be transit free right now, and could probably successfully pitch those reasons to customers if I wanted to change careers.
InterNAP. Personally I think the whole "tier 1" craze is overrated. I'd rather have multiple good paths to my destination, and the ability to divert traffic elsewhere in the event of a problem. It can cost a lot of time and money to get all the peering you need in all locations (or at least enough to keep from bouncing traffic across the country because thats where your peer is, or thats where your private peer is, etc). Then again it does solve the problem of path selection by making it a non-issue, there is only one path. -- Richard A Steenbergen <ras@e-gerbil.net> http://www.e-gerbil.net/ras PGP Key ID: 0x138EA177 (67 29 D7 BC E8 18 3E DA B2 46 B3 D8 14 36 FE B6)
On Mon, 11 Jun 2001, Richard A. Steenbergen wrote:
InterNAP.
I'd actually specifically left them out, since even Tier 2 implies some sort of backbone, at least in my book, and since they don't get any points by calling themselves "tier 0". You might as well call band-x a tier 2 provider if Internap fits the definition. However, someone pointed out that Savvis was pushing the "tier 2 and loving it" strategy pretty hard.
Personally I think the whole "tier 1" craze is overrated. I'd rather have multiple good paths to my destination, and the ability to divert traffic elsewhere in the event of a problem. It can cost a lot of time and money
Amen to that. You only need to look as far as CW and PSI to see the faults in a transit-free environment. One business relationship on the rocks can destroy your full view of a routing table. However, from the position of a Tier 2, you can aggressively pursue both private and public peers and rest easy knowing that a dispute on the business side won't destroy your connectivity, just increase load on your transit. -travis
to get all the peering you need in all locations (or at least enough to keep from bouncing traffic across the country because thats where your peer is, or thats where your private peer is, etc). Then again it does solve the problem of path selection by making it a non-issue, there is only one path.
-- Richard A Steenbergen <ras@e-gerbil.net> http://www.e-gerbil.net/ras PGP Key ID: 0x138EA177 (67 29 D7 BC E8 18 3E DA B2 46 B3 D8 14 36 FE B6)
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