At 05:18 PM 12/19/2003, you wrote:

On Fri, 19 Dec 2003, Ejay Hire wrote:

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Lucent Pipeline 130, Superpipe 95, or Superpipe 155.

Well 2 minutes on Froogle tell me your definition of cheap and mine don't match. For the same price range I would get a netopia R4522 or 5300 which will reliably do NAT and all.

With a little more research, I think I can better clarify that I'm looking for just about any router (<$50-100) that has a HSSI port and an RJ45 port. For what I'm looking for at the moment (experimenting) used/refurbished doesn't matter so long as it works.

Then you probably want a Netopia PN660. v.35 serial port, NAT, RJ45 Ethernet, etc. They can't be upgraded with a Netopia OS later than 2 years ago due to flash and RAM limitations so they have limited VPN capability, but they work great for what they are. You can get them for < $25 on eBay. This one is currently $9.99. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3066361701&category=3706 DO NOT buy a PN630/640 or any other model except the PN660 since that is the only one which will work for your specs. I would have given you one, but I threw them away a few months ago. -Robert Tellurian Networks - The Ultimate Internet Connection http://www.tellurian.com | 888-TELLURIAN | 973-300-9211 "Good will, like a good name, is got by many actions, and lost by one." - Francis Jeffrey