(newbie) BGP For Dummies?
"Hi, long-time listener, first-time caller..." Can anyone recommend a good forum for BGP questions? I've got my copy of the O'Reilly book handy, but having never really worked with BGP before, I find it's not really the best novice-level work. (Or, if questions about weird inter-AS routing scenarios are on-topic here, I'd be glad to bounce my problems around on NANOG.) Thanks! David Smith MVN.net
There was excellent docuent on Cisco (better than book). I can search for it, if you want. Btw, BGP is not for dummies, too many possible consequencies of config errors are possible. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David E. Smith" <dave@mvn.net> To: <nanog@nanog.org> Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 12:35 PM Subject: (newbie) BGP For Dummies?
"Hi, long-time listener, first-time caller..."
Can anyone recommend a good forum for BGP questions? I've got my copy of
the
O'Reilly book handy, but having never really worked with BGP before, I find it's not really the best novice-level work.
(Or, if questions about weird inter-AS routing scenarios are on-topic here, I'd be glad to bounce my problems around on NANOG.)
Thanks!
David Smith MVN.net
On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 02:08:45 -0800, Alexei Roudnev <alex@relcom.net> wrote:
There was excellent docuent on Cisco (better than book). I can search for it, if you want.
This one is not too bad .. Practical BGP (Russ White, Danny McPherson, Srihari Sangli) http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0321127005/103-1122659-1873401...
Btw, BGP is not for dummies, too many possible consequencies of config errors are possible.
Sometimes that's the best way to learn .. when you have accidentally messed up configs on a router that's halfway across town once, have to drive over and fix the resulting mess, you learn quite fast not to repeat that mistake again :) If this guy was anywhere in the asiapac region I'd just have asked him to attend the workshops and tutorials at SANOG or APRICOT - there are a lot more teaching in those two events than you see in NANOG meetings. --srs -- Suresh Ramasubramanian (ops.lists@gmail.com)
This is a bit dated, but a good place to start.. BGP4 Case Studies - Sam Halabi http://www.cs.fsu.edu/courses/netdesign/halabi/halabi-bgp4-case-studies-tutorial.pdf#search='halabi%20bgp%20cisco' For a forum try: http://isp-lists.isp-planet.com/isp-routing/ Internet.com has a number of forums in this genre, just poke around their website a bit.. John ----- Original Message ----- From: "David E. Smith" <dave@mvn.net> To: <nanog@nanog.org> Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 3:35 PM Subject: (newbie) BGP For Dummies?
"Hi, long-time listener, first-time caller..."
Can anyone recommend a good forum for BGP questions? I've got my copy of the O'Reilly book handy, but having never really worked with BGP before, I find it's not really the best novice-level work.
(Or, if questions about weird inter-AS routing scenarios are on-topic here, I'd be glad to bounce my problems around on NANOG.)
Thanks!
David Smith MVN.net
Check this out... http://www.bgp4.as/books Good luck. -Charlie -----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu] On Behalf Of David E. Smith Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 12:36 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: (newbie) BGP For Dummies? "Hi, long-time listener, first-time caller..." Can anyone recommend a good forum for BGP questions? I've got my copy of the O'Reilly book handy, but having never really worked with BGP before, I find it's not really the best novice-level work. (Or, if questions about weird inter-AS routing scenarios are on-topic here, I'd be glad to bounce my problems around on NANOG.) Thanks! David Smith MVN.net
Here is it: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk365/technologies_tech_note09186a00800c95bb... Very good document.
On Fri, 2004-12-10 at 21:35, David E. Smith wrote:
"Hi, long-time listener, first-time caller..."
Can anyone recommend a good forum for BGP questions? I've got my copy of the O'Reilly book handy, but having never really worked with BGP before, I find it's not really the best novice-level work.
Within the E-Next network of excellence, we organised two weeks ago a two-days tutorial on BGP. This tutorial assumes that the attendees have a basic understanding of IP routing works but no prior knowledge of BGP is assumed. The tutorial has a theoretical part covering the behaviour of the BGP protocol and a practical part with the C-BGP simulator (http://cbgp.info.ucl.ac.be) whose syntax is close to Cisco routers. Upon request from some attendees of the tutorial who intend to deliver BGP courses within their universities, we have released all the training material under a creative commons licence, see : http://totem.info.ucl.ac.be/bgp.html Suggestions and comments on improvements to this training material are welcome Best regards, Olivier Bonaventure -- CSE Dept. UCL, Belgium - http://www.info.ucl.ac.be/people/OBO/
I recommend such thing (remembering, how we learned BGP ourself many years ago, and then participated in edition of the book about BGP). But it all depends of complexity. 2 uplink multihome site - simple case; 100 node backbone with reflectors and private AS-es - another one.
On Fri, 2004-12-10 at 21:35, David E. Smith wrote:
"Hi, long-time listener, first-time caller..."
Can anyone recommend a good forum for BGP questions? I've got my copy of
the
O'Reilly book handy, but having never really worked with BGP before, I find it's not really the best novice-level work.
Within the E-Next network of excellence, we organised two weeks ago a two-days tutorial on BGP. This tutorial assumes that the attendees have a basic understanding of IP routing works but no prior knowledge of BGP is assumed. The tutorial has a theoretical part covering the behaviour of the BGP protocol and a practical part with the C-BGP simulator (http://cbgp.info.ucl.ac.be) whose syntax is close to Cisco routers.
Upon request from some attendees of the tutorial who intend to deliver BGP courses within their universities, we have released all the training material under a creative commons licence, see : http://totem.info.ucl.ac.be/bgp.html
Suggestions and comments on improvements to this training material are welcome
Best regards,
Olivier Bonaventure -- CSE Dept. UCL, Belgium - http://www.info.ucl.ac.be/people/OBO/
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 To my mind, John Stewart's "BGP4: Inter-Domain Routing on the Internet" is the best networking book ever. Unfortunately, it is also one of those books (just like "A Brief History of Time) that one leant is never returned. I must have bought around 10-12 copies of it by now. It is well written, concise (around 150 pages) and deals with real world scenarios. I strongly recommend it, Warren. - -- Never criticize a man till you've walked a mile in his shoes. Then if he didn't like what you've said, he's a mile away and barefoot. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (Darwin) iD8DBQFBvQJAHSkNr4ucEScRAuTLAJ9R98NhpIzg5QZHUL0/xN0BZ7suewCfQNrs TPiA2myhTI9XNLV0QlaQccc= =TuYo -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Try: http://www.itprc.com/routing.htm Look under the "BGP" sub-heading for links to a lot of info. Irwin
From: "David E. Smith" <dave@mvn.net> Reply-To: <dave@mvn.net> Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 14:35:34 -0600 To: <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: (newbie) BGP For Dummies?
"Hi, long-time listener, first-time caller..."
Can anyone recommend a good forum for BGP questions? I've got my copy of the O'Reilly book handy, but having never really worked with BGP before, I find it's not really the best novice-level work.
(Or, if questions about weird inter-AS routing scenarios are on-topic here, I'd be glad to bounce my problems around on NANOG.)
Thanks!
David Smith MVN.net
participants (8)
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Alexei Roudnev -
Charlie Khanna - NextWeb -
David E. Smith -
Irwin Lazar -
John Underhill -
Olivier Bonaventure -
Suresh Ramasubramanian -
Warren Kumari, Ph.D, CCIE# 9190