http://www.mmp.co.uk/mmp/informer/netnews/HTM/718n1k.htm Are all our jobs in jeopardy? Dan
On Fri, 18 Jul 1997, Dan Dale wrote:
http://www.mmp.co.uk/mmp/informer/netnews/HTM/718n1k.htm
Are all our jobs in jeopardy?
I've linked together several on-line press accounts of the recent NSI antics & fiber cuts at: http://www.clark.net/pub/rbenn/outages.html Randy Benn
Looks like this person has confused Eugene Kashpureff's stunts with the NSI debacle. It's things like this that threaten our (as well as the network's) reputation when read by the 'internet savvy' public. My apologies something so off topic. Michael On Fri, 18 Jul 1997, Dan Dale wrote:
http://www.mmp.co.uk/mmp/informer/netnews/HTM/718n1k.htm
Are all our jobs in jeopardy?
Dan
On Jul 18, MFS <michael@dook.org> wrote:
Looks like this person has confused Eugene Kashpureff's stunts with the NSI debacle.
It's things like this that threaten our (as well as the network's) reputation when read by the 'internet savvy' public.
There was a good article in the San Jose Mercury News which covered both events, but made it pretty clear that experts such as some guy from the FBI didn't think there was any real connection between them. Only important thing the article missed, IMHO, is that there's already new software out which wasn't as susceptible to Kashpureff's idiotic stunt. http://www.sjmercury.com/news/netglitch071797.htm (Where else but Silicon Valley would this be front-page news?) ********************************************************* J.D. Falk voice: +1-415-482-2840 Supervisor, Network Operations fax: +1-415-482-2844 PRIORI NETWORKS, INC. http://www.priori.net "The People You Know. The People You Trust." *********************************************************
Better watch out, more reporting to come soon. I was just called by 3 seperate magazines for a quote about the NSI problems that we have been having. The scary part is, 2 of them got my number from my postings on usenet. I hope they aren't citing any Joe-Bob CNE they talk to as being an "Internet Engineer for a major ISP." Then we are all in big trouble. On Fri, 18 Jul 1997, J.D. Falk wrote:
On Jul 18, MFS <michael@dook.org> wrote:
Looks like this person has confused Eugene Kashpureff's stunts with the NSI debacle.
It's things like this that threaten our (as well as the network's) reputation when read by the 'internet savvy' public.
There was a good article in the San Jose Mercury News which covered both events, but made it pretty clear that experts such as some guy from the FBI didn't think there was any real connection between them. Only important thing the article missed, IMHO, is that there's already new software out which wasn't as susceptible to Kashpureff's idiotic stunt.
http://www.sjmercury.com/news/netglitch071797.htm
(Where else but Silicon Valley would this be front-page news?)
********************************************************* J.D. Falk voice: +1-415-482-2840 Supervisor, Network Operations fax: +1-415-482-2844 PRIORI NETWORKS, INC. http://www.priori.net "The People You Know. The People You Trust." *********************************************************
On Fri, 18 Jul 1997, Cameo Wood wrote:
Better watch out, more reporting to come soon. I was just called by 3 seperate magazines for a quote about the NSI problems that we have been having. The scary part is, 2 of them got my number from my postings on usenet. I hope they aren't citing any Joe-Bob CNE they talk to as being an "Internet Engineer for a major ISP." Then we are all in big trouble.
While there are at least a dozen stories out there so far about the recent NIC antics, about 90% of the content in them all seems to be sourced from 2 wire stories--one from AP, one from Reuters. Randy BEnn
On Fri, Jul 18, 1997 at 09:56:25AM -0700, J.D. Falk wrote:
(Where else but Silicon Valley would this be front-page news?)
Washington D.C.? http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/fp_front.htm And this one's not from AP or Reuters. Tine Hutchison Senior Network Engineer CAIS Internet tine@cais.net
At 02:41 PM 7/18/97 -0400, you wrote:
Washington D.C.?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/fp_front.htm
And this one's not from AP or Reuters.
The Front Page Washington Post Articles leads with... "Traffic on much of the Internet ground to a halt early yesterday after a pair of human errors, an unprecedented glitch at the Herndon company that maintains the Internet's address registry and the accidental severing near Laurel of an important data line. For much of the day, World Wide Web sites all over the United States were inaccessible.... " Yet, when I look at traffic statistics for MAE-East... http://www.mfsdatanet.com/MAE/east.giga.overlay.html I notice only a SLIGHT reduction in Thursday's traffic when compared to the other days this week (maybe 10% reduction for a couple hours) I don't know if I would label that as "Ground to a halt" It's a shame the media insists on exagerating the facts to give the impression of "news" Russ __________________________________________________________________ Russ Haynal - Internet Consultant, Instructor, Speaker "Helping organizations gain the most benefit from the Internet" russ@navigators.com http://navigators.com 703-729-1757 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Author:"Internet; A Knowledge Odyssey" (Top-rated CD-ROM Tutorial) Available from MindQ Publishing: http://www.mindq.com
At 05:07 PM 7/18/97 -0400, Russ Haynal wrote:
Yet, when I look at traffic statistics for MAE-East... http://www.mfsdatanet.com/MAE/east.giga.overlay.html
I notice only a SLIGHT reduction in Thursday's traffic when compared to the other days this week (maybe 10% reduction for a couple hours)
I don't know if I would label that as "Ground to a halt"
Or it could just show how elastic internet traffic really is. One person's loss is another well-connected person's gain. Brian --=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-- "Why not?" - TL brian@organic.com - hyperreal.org - apache.org
On Fri, Jul 18, 1997 at 12:12:43PM -0500, MFS wrote:
Looks like this person has confused Eugene Kashpureff's stunts with the NSI debacle.
Yep.
It's things like this that threaten our (as well as the network's) reputation when read by the 'internet savvy' public.
Quite so.
My apologies something so off topic.
<soapbox> I don't think it's off topic at all. There won't _be_ anything to operate if people like that end up testifying before, for example, congressional committees... </soapbox> Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth jra@baylink.com Member of the Technical Staff Unsolicited Commercial Emailers Sued The Suncoast Freenet "People propose, science studies, technology Tampa Bay, Florida conforms." -- Dr. Don Norman +1 813 790 7592
On Fri, Jul 18, 1997 at 08:39:13AM -0700, Dan Dale wrote:
Yeah, if their journalistic standards don't improve. The NetSol zone file screwup is an "outside attack", now, 'eh? Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth jra@baylink.com Member of the Technical Staff Unsolicited Commercial Emailers Sued The Suncoast Freenet "People propose, science studies, technology Tampa Bay, Florida conforms." -- Dr. Don Norman +1 813 790 7592
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bmanning@ISI.EDU
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Brian Behlendorf
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Cameo Wood
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Dan Dale
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J.D. Falk
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Jay R. Ashworth
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MFS
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rbenn@clark.net
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Russ Haynal
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tine@cais.net