Birch/Primus/Fusion Network ASN integration?
Hey all, I'm looking for any info that might be publicly available regarding intentions to merge the Primus ASN into Birch/Fusion Network, or whether it will remain its own thing. Primus acquired by Birch: https://primus.ca/index.php/bc_en/news-and-events/primus-news-birch-complete... Birch acquired by Fusion: https://primus.ca/index.php/yt_en/news-and-events/primus-news-fusion-announc... primus: https://www.peeringdb.com/net/2811 fusion: https://www.peeringdb.com/net/4608
I'm pretty sure that's a different Fusion than described in the press release. On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 1:36 AM Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuhnke@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey all,
I'm looking for any info that might be publicly available regarding intentions to merge the Primus ASN into Birch/Fusion Network, or whether it will remain its own thing.
Primus acquired by Birch: https://primus.ca/index.php/bc_en/news-and-events/primus-news-birch-complete...
Birch acquired by Fusion: https://primus.ca/index.php/yt_en/news-and-events/primus-news-fusion-announc...
-- Tim Cailloux Southern Internet -- Locally Owned and Operated tim@southern-internet.com (404) 406-9911
wrong fusion on peering db On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 10:35 PM Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuhnke@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey all,
I'm looking for any info that might be publicly available regarding intentions to merge the Primus ASN into Birch/Fusion Network, or whether it will remain its own thing.
Primus acquired by Birch: https://primus.ca/index.php/bc_en/news-and-events/primus-news-birch-complete...
Birch acquired by Fusion: https://primus.ca/index.php/yt_en/news-and-events/primus-news-fusion-announc...
Mea culpa. I'm actually not finding much for Fusion Connect Inc. in terms of normal BGP presence (peeringdb page, an AS that's known to tools like the bgp.he.net tool, etc. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birch_Communications AS20175 Birch Communications Inc. doesn't appear to be doing much of anything There's also this, which is one of their earlier acquisitions: https://www.peeringdb.com/net/3238 On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 12:42 AM TJ Trout <tj@pcguys.us> wrote:
wrong fusion on peering db
On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 10:35 PM Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuhnke@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey all,
I'm looking for any info that might be publicly available regarding intentions to merge the Primus ASN into Birch/Fusion Network, or whether it will remain its own thing.
Primus acquired by Birch: https://primus.ca/index.php/bc_en/news-and-events/primus-news-birch-complete...
Birch acquired by Fusion: https://primus.ca/index.php/yt_en/news-and-events/primus-news-fusion-announc...
I connect to Globalinx (another Birch acquisition) via AS17184. It looks like they also have AS16526. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuhnke@gmail.com> To: "TJ Trout" <tj@pcguys.us> Cc: "nanog@nanog.org list" <nanog@nanog.org> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 3:13:11 AM Subject: Re: Birch/Primus/Fusion Network ASN integration? Mea culpa. I'm actually not finding much for Fusion Connect Inc. in terms of normal BGP presence (peeringdb page, an AS that's known to tools like the bgp.he.net tool, etc. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birch_Communications AS20175 Birch Communications Inc. doesn't appear to be doing much of anything There's also this, which is one of their earlier acquisitions: https://www.peeringdb.com/net/3238 On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 12:42 AM TJ Trout < tj@pcguys.us > wrote: wrong fusion on peering db On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 10:35 PM Eric Kuhnke < eric.kuhnke@gmail.com > wrote: <blockquote> Hey all, I'm looking for any info that might be publicly available regarding intentions to merge the Primus ASN into Birch/Fusion Network, or whether it will remain its own thing. Primus acquired by Birch: https://primus.ca/index.php/bc_en/news-and-events/primus-news-birch-complete... Birch acquired by Fusion: https://primus.ca/index.php/yt_en/news-and-events/primus-news-fusion-announc... primus: https://www.peeringdb.com/net/2811 fusion: https://www.peeringdb.com/net/4608 </blockquote>
The Globalinx network was migrated into the Fusion network earlier this year about 27 Weeks Ago is what my router interface tells me. We ended up running new interconnects with them and changing peering from Globalinx’s ASN to the Fusion Network ASN 11696. The birch ASN 17184 is reachable via AS11696. I am not sure if this was a special setup for us or not. This is for the legacy Globalinx Network AS46191 199.x.84.0/24 and 199.x.85.0/24 if you were connecting to the 5Linx / Globalinx Broadsoft environment. -Erik From: NANOG <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 2:18 PM To: Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuhnke@gmail.com> Cc: nanog@nanog.org list <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Re: Birch/Primus/Fusion Network ASN integration? I connect to Globalinx (another Birch acquisition) via AS17184. It looks like they also have AS16526. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions<http://www.ics-il.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange<http://www.midwest-ix.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP<http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/youtubeicon.png]<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> ________________________________ From: "Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuhnke@gmail.com<mailto:eric.kuhnke@gmail.com>> To: "TJ Trout" <tj@pcguys.us<mailto:tj@pcguys.us>> Cc: "nanog@nanog.org list<mailto:nanog@nanog.org%20list>" <nanog@nanog.org<mailto:nanog@nanog.org>> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 3:13:11 AM Subject: Re: Birch/Primus/Fusion Network ASN integration? Mea culpa. I'm actually not finding much for Fusion Connect Inc. in terms of normal BGP presence (peeringdb page, an AS that's known to tools like the bgp.he.net<http://bgp.he.net> tool, etc. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birch_Communications AS20175 Birch Communications Inc. doesn't appear to be doing much of anything There's also this, which is one of their earlier acquisitions: https://www.peeringdb.com/net/3238 On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 12:42 AM TJ Trout <tj@pcguys.us<mailto:tj@pcguys.us>> wrote: wrong fusion on peering db On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 10:35 PM Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuhnke@gmail.com<mailto:eric.kuhnke@gmail.com>> wrote: Hey all, I'm looking for any info that might be publicly available regarding intentions to merge the Primus ASN into Birch/Fusion Network, or whether it will remain its own thing. Primus acquired by Birch: https://primus.ca/index.php/bc_en/news-and-events/primus-news-birch-complete... Birch acquired by Fusion: https://primus.ca/index.php/yt_en/news-and-events/primus-news-fusion-announc... primus: https://www.peeringdb.com/net/2811 fusion: https://www.peeringdb.com/net/4608 ________________________________ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail transmission, and any documents, files or previous e-mail messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, or a person responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of any of the information contained in or attached to this transmission is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you have received this transmission in error please notify the sender immediately by replying to this e-mail. You must destroy the original transmission and its attachments without reading or saving in any manner. Thank you.
I think what caused initial confusion and my identification of the wrong "Fusion Network" was that AS11696 doesn't appear to have a peeringdb page. In my recent experience with internal documentation for 40+ peers that are equal to or larger than them in size, it's the first AS I've seen without one... https://bgp.he.net/AS11696 On the west coast it appears the Primus AS is still its own separate thing, based on a recent fix to peering and looking at route-views. On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 2:34 PM Erik Sundberg <ESundberg@nitelusa.com> wrote:
The Globalinx network was migrated into the Fusion network earlier this year about 27 Weeks Ago is what my router interface tells me. We ended up running new interconnects with them and changing peering from Globalinx’s ASN to the Fusion Network ASN 11696. The birch ASN 17184 is reachable via AS11696. I am not sure if this was a special setup for us or not.
This is for the legacy Globalinx Network AS46191 199.x.84.0/24 and 199.x.85.0/24 if you were connecting to the 5Linx / Globalinx Broadsoft environment.
-Erik
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I connect to Globalinx (another Birch acquisition) via AS17184. It looks like they also have AS16526.
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*From: *"Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuhnke@gmail.com> *To: *"TJ Trout" <tj@pcguys.us> *Cc: *"nanog@nanog.org list" <nanog@nanog.org> *Sent: *Tuesday, June 18, 2019 3:13:11 AM *Subject: *Re: Birch/Primus/Fusion Network ASN integration?
Mea culpa. I'm actually not finding much for Fusion Connect Inc. in terms of normal BGP presence (peeringdb page, an AS that's known to tools like the bgp.he.net tool, etc.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birch_Communications
AS20175 Birch Communications Inc. doesn't appear to be doing much of anything
There's also this, which is one of their earlier acquisitions: https://www.peeringdb.com/net/3238
On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 12:42 AM TJ Trout <tj@pcguys.us> wrote:
wrong fusion on peering db
On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 10:35 PM Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuhnke@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey all,
I'm looking for any info that might be publicly available regarding intentions to merge the Primus ASN into Birch/Fusion Network, or whether it will remain its own thing.
Primus acquired by Birch: https://primus.ca/index.php/bc_en/news-and-events/primus-news-birch-complete...
Birch acquired by Fusion: https://primus.ca/index.php/yt_en/news-and-events/primus-news-fusion-announc...
primus: https://www.peeringdb.com/net/2811
fusion: https://www.peeringdb.com/net/4608
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I still have SIP connections to the Globalinx system to IPs that are in 17184. I don't believe this part was migrated yet because whenever I call in for support issues, no one has any idea how to find the configured accounts. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Erik Sundberg" <ESundberg@nitelusa.com> To: "Mike Hammett" <nanog@ics-il.net>, "Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuhnke@gmail.com> Cc: "nanog@nanog.org list" <nanog@nanog.org> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 4:33:58 PM Subject: RE: Birch/Primus/Fusion Network ASN integration? The Globalinx network was migrated into the Fusion network earlier this year about 27 Weeks Ago is what my router interface tells me. We ended up running new interconnects with them and changing peering from Globalinx’s ASN to the Fusion Network ASN 11696. The birch ASN 17184 is reachable via AS11696. I am not sure if this was a special setup for us or not. This is for the legacy Globalinx Network AS46191 199.x.84.0/24 and 199.x.85.0/24 if you were connecting to the 5Linx / Globalinx Broadsoft environment. -Erik From: NANOG < nanog-bounces@nanog.org > On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 2:18 PM To: Eric Kuhnke < eric.kuhnke@gmail.com > Cc: nanog@nanog.org list < nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Re: Birch/Primus/Fusion Network ASN integration? I connect to Globalinx (another Birch acquisition) via AS17184. It looks like they also have AS16526. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Kuhnke" < eric.kuhnke@gmail.com > To: "TJ Trout" < tj@pcguys.us > Cc: " nanog@nanog.org list " < nanog@nanog.org > Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 3:13:11 AM Subject: Re: Birch/Primus/Fusion Network ASN integration? Mea culpa. I'm actually not finding much for Fusion Connect Inc. in terms of normal BGP presence (peeringdb page, an AS that's known to tools like the bgp.he.net tool, etc. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birch_Communications AS20175 Birch Communications Inc. doesn't appear to be doing much of anything There's also this, which is one of their earlier acquisitions: https://www.peeringdb.com/net/3238 On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 12:42 AM TJ Trout < tj@pcguys.us > wrote: wrong fusion on peering db On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 10:35 PM Eric Kuhnke < eric.kuhnke@gmail.com > wrote: <blockquote> Hey all, I'm looking for any info that might be publicly available regarding intentions to merge the Primus ASN into Birch/Fusion Network, or whether it will remain its own thing. Primus acquired by Birch: https://primus.ca/index.php/bc_en/news-and-events/primus-news-birch-complete... Birch acquired by Fusion: https://primus.ca/index.php/yt_en/news-and-events/primus-news-fusion-announc... primus: https://www.peeringdb.com/net/2811 fusion: https://www.peeringdb.com/net/4608 </blockquote> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail transmission, and any documents, files or previous e-mail messages attached to it may contain confidential information that is legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, or a person responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of any of the information contained in or attached to this transmission is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you have received this transmission in error please notify the sender immediately by replying to this e-mail. You must destroy the original transmission and its attachments without reading or saving in any manner. Thank you.
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