Please review the Mailing List policies which specifically prohibit commercial discussions on the list. I would ask the list moderators to chime in here please Shane
On Mar 18, 2021, at 11:14 AM, Rod Beck <rod.beck@unitedcablecompany.com> wrote:
People post requests all the time. You are free to block me. And I know the majority of uses disagree with you.
From: Shane Ronan <shane@ronan-online.com> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 4:11 PM To: Rod Beck <rod.beck@unitedcablecompany.com> Cc: nanog@nanog.org <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Re: ASE - 100 Gig Wave
NANOG is not a service for receiving details on cable paths for commercial purposes. Please find somewhere else to collect this information.
On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 10:54 AM Rod Beck <rod.beck@unitedcablecompany.com> wrote: This cable is tapped out and I need a 100 gig wave from Hong Kong to Singapore. 3 year term.
Roderick Beck Global Network Capacity Procurement United Cable Company www.unitedcablecompany.com https://unitedcablecompany.com/video/ New York City & Budapest rod.beck@unitedcablecompany.com Budapest: 36-70-605-5144 NJ: 908-452-8183
Actually, that language was intended to prohibit soliciting business and not asking for help. I have some hard words to describe like Shane Ronan, but I will forbear. I suggest you cease and desist before this gets ugly. Obviously you are underemployed. Get some work to do. Best, -R. ________________________________ From: sronan@ronan-online.com <sronan@ronan-online.com> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 4:24 PM To: Rod Beck <rod.beck@unitedcablecompany.com>; NANOG Operators' Group <nanog@nanog.org> Cc: Shane Ronan <shane@ronan-online.com> Subject: Re: ASE - 100 Gig Wave Please review the Mailing List policies which specifically prohibit commercial discussions on the list. I would ask the list moderators to chime in here please Shane On Mar 18, 2021, at 11:14 AM, Rod Beck <rod.beck@unitedcablecompany.com> wrote: People post requests all the time. You are free to block me. And I know the majority of uses disagree with you. ________________________________ From: Shane Ronan <shane@ronan-online.com> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 4:11 PM To: Rod Beck <rod.beck@unitedcablecompany.com> Cc: nanog@nanog.org <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Re: ASE - 100 Gig Wave NANOG is not a service for receiving details on cable paths for commercial purposes. Please find somewhere else to collect this information. On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 10:54 AM Rod Beck <rod.beck@unitedcablecompany.com<mailto:rod.beck@unitedcablecompany.com>> wrote: This cable is tapped out and I need a 100 gig wave from Hong Kong to Singapore. 3 year term. Roderick Beck Global Network Capacity Procurement United Cable Company www.unitedcablecompany.com<http://www.unitedcablecompany.com> https://unitedcablecompany.com/video/ New York City & Budapest rod.beck@unitedcablecompany.com<mailto:rod.beck@unitedcablecompany.com> Budapest: 36-70-605-5144 NJ: 908-452-8183 [1467221477350_image005.png]
And by the way, it would not be making these requests if there was not a severe capacity shortage in the Pacific. I don't like telegraph what I am doing, Shane. ________________________________ From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+rod.beck=unitedcablecompany.com@nanog.org> on behalf of Rod Beck <rod.beck@unitedcablecompany.com> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 4:27 PM To: sronan@ronan-online.com <sronan@ronan-online.com>; NANOG Operators' Group <nanog@nanog.org> Cc: Shane Ronan <shane@ronan-online.com> Subject: Re: ASE - 100 Gig Wave Actually, that language was intended to prohibit soliciting business and not asking for help. I have some hard words to describe like Shane Ronan, but I will forbear. I suggest you cease and desist before this gets ugly. Obviously you are underemployed. Get some work to do. Best, -R. ________________________________ From: sronan@ronan-online.com <sronan@ronan-online.com> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 4:24 PM To: Rod Beck <rod.beck@unitedcablecompany.com>; NANOG Operators' Group <nanog@nanog.org> Cc: Shane Ronan <shane@ronan-online.com> Subject: Re: ASE - 100 Gig Wave Please review the Mailing List policies which specifically prohibit commercial discussions on the list. I would ask the list moderators to chime in here please Shane On Mar 18, 2021, at 11:14 AM, Rod Beck <rod.beck@unitedcablecompany.com> wrote: People post requests all the time. You are free to block me. And I know the majority of uses disagree with you. ________________________________ From: Shane Ronan <shane@ronan-online.com> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 4:11 PM To: Rod Beck <rod.beck@unitedcablecompany.com> Cc: nanog@nanog.org <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Re: ASE - 100 Gig Wave NANOG is not a service for receiving details on cable paths for commercial purposes. Please find somewhere else to collect this information. On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 10:54 AM Rod Beck <rod.beck@unitedcablecompany.com<mailto:rod.beck@unitedcablecompany.com>> wrote: This cable is tapped out and I need a 100 gig wave from Hong Kong to Singapore. 3 year term. Roderick Beck Global Network Capacity Procurement United Cable Company www.unitedcablecompany.com<http://www.unitedcablecompany.com> https://unitedcablecompany.com/video/ New York City & Budapest rod.beck@unitedcablecompany.com<mailto:rod.beck@unitedcablecompany.com> Budapest: 36-70-605-5144 NJ: 908-452-8183 [1467221477350_image005.png]
I doubt that. You’ve been at it for months with requests all over the world. It was only a matter of time before someone said something.
On Mar 18, 2021, at 10:34, Rod Beck <rod.beck@unitedcablecompany.com> wrote:
And by the way, it would not be making these requests if there was not a severe capacity shortage in the Pacific. I don't like telegraph what I am doing, Shane.
From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+rod.beck=unitedcablecompany.com@nanog.org> on behalf of Rod Beck <rod.beck@unitedcablecompany.com> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 4:27 PM To: sronan@ronan-online.com <sronan@ronan-online.com>; NANOG Operators' Group <nanog@nanog.org> Cc: Shane Ronan <shane@ronan-online.com> Subject: Re: ASE - 100 Gig Wave
Actually, that language was intended to prohibit soliciting business and not asking for help. I have some hard words to describe like Shane Ronan, but I will forbear.
I suggest you cease and desist before this gets ugly. Obviously you are underemployed.
Get some work to do.
Best,
-R.
From: sronan@ronan-online.com <sronan@ronan-online.com> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 4:24 PM To: Rod Beck <rod.beck@unitedcablecompany.com>; NANOG Operators' Group <nanog@nanog.org> Cc: Shane Ronan <shane@ronan-online.com> Subject: Re: ASE - 100 Gig Wave
Please review the Mailing List policies which specifically prohibit commercial discussions on the list. I would ask the list moderators to chime in here please
Shane
On Mar 18, 2021, at 11:14 AM, Rod Beck <rod.beck@unitedcablecompany.com> wrote:
People post requests all the time. You are free to block me. And I know the majority of uses disagree with you.
From: Shane Ronan <shane@ronan-online.com> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 4:11 PM To: Rod Beck <rod.beck@unitedcablecompany.com> Cc: nanog@nanog.org <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Re: ASE - 100 Gig Wave
NANOG is not a service for receiving details on cable paths for commercial purposes. Please find somewhere else to collect this information.
On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 10:54 AM Rod Beck <rod.beck@unitedcablecompany.com> wrote: This cable is tapped out and I need a 100 gig wave from Hong Kong to Singapore. 3 year term.
Roderick Beck Global Network Capacity Procurement United Cable Company www.unitedcablecompany.com https://unitedcablecompany.com/video/ New York City & Budapest rod.beck@unitedcablecompany.com Budapest: 36-70-605-5144 NJ: 908-452-8183
On 3/18/21 18:09, JASON BOTHE via NANOG wrote:
I doubt that. You’ve been at it for months with requests all over the world. It was only a matter of time before someone said something.
I'm in two minds about this... I'm on & off NANOG, so have no recollection of the OP "doing this" more than once. I think a NOG list is appropriate for finding out where network may exist, especially if locations may be hard. It's (not so) often that there is the odd request about network into Africa. Never quite paid attention to whether those requests come with commercial bits or not, but if they do, I'd just ignore those anyway. The OP's question seems alright to me. I can see why the contract term may tickle folk, but I'd just ignore that and consider the preceding protein that matters to NANOG. There's a lot of capital on this group. What else is it for if not to find out where one can get network? Mark.
Far from underemployed and I'm not worried about it getting ugly, in fact, my next email will be to Eric Gutshall to complain about being threatened publicly by one of his employees. I don't think this will end well for you. On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 11:27 AM Rod Beck <rod.beck@unitedcablecompany.com> wrote:
Actually, that language was intended to prohibit soliciting business and not asking for help. I have some hard words to describe like Shane Ronan, but I will forbear.
I suggest you cease and desist before this gets ugly. Obviously you are underemployed.
Get some work to do.
Best,
-R.
------------------------------ *From:* sronan@ronan-online.com <sronan@ronan-online.com> *Sent:* Thursday, March 18, 2021 4:24 PM *To:* Rod Beck <rod.beck@unitedcablecompany.com>; NANOG Operators' Group < nanog@nanog.org> *Cc:* Shane Ronan <shane@ronan-online.com> *Subject:* Re: ASE - 100 Gig Wave
Please review the Mailing List policies which specifically prohibit commercial discussions on the list. I would ask the list moderators to chime in here please
Shane
On Mar 18, 2021, at 11:14 AM, Rod Beck <rod.beck@unitedcablecompany.com> wrote:
People post requests all the time. You are free to block me. And I know the majority of uses disagree with you.
------------------------------ *From:* Shane Ronan <shane@ronan-online.com> *Sent:* Thursday, March 18, 2021 4:11 PM *To:* Rod Beck <rod.beck@unitedcablecompany.com> *Cc:* nanog@nanog.org <nanog@nanog.org> *Subject:* Re: ASE - 100 Gig Wave
NANOG is not a service for receiving details on cable paths for commercial purposes. Please find somewhere else to collect this information.
On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 10:54 AM Rod Beck <rod.beck@unitedcablecompany.com> wrote:
This cable is tapped out and I need a 100 gig wave from Hong Kong to Singapore. 3 year term.
Roderick Beck Global Network Capacity Procurement
United Cable Company www.unitedcablecompany.com https://unitedcablecompany.com/video/ New York City & Budapest
rod.beck@unitedcablecompany.com
Budapest: 36-70-605-5144
NJ: 908-452-8183
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I see we've got the big swingers out today. Everyone's got something to prove. That was one thing I liked about the old ISP-Bandwidth list. That's pretty much what all of the conversation was, trying to find quotes on services. I didn't order anything from there, but it was nice being a fly on the wall. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shane Ronan" <shane@ronan-online.com> To: "Rod Beck" <rod.beck@unitedcablecompany.com> Cc: "NANOG Operators' Group" <nanog@nanog.org> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 10:57:38 AM Subject: Re: ASE - 100 Gig Wave Far from underemployed and I'm not worried about it getting ugly, in fact, my next email will be to Eric Gutshall to complain about being threatened publicly by one of his employees. I don't think this will end well for you. On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 11:27 AM Rod Beck < rod.beck@unitedcablecompany.com > wrote: Actually, that language was intended to prohibit soliciting business and not asking for help. I have some hard words to describe like Shane Ronan, but I will forbear. I suggest you cease and desist before this gets ugly. Obviously you are underemployed. Get some work to do. Best, -R. From: sronan@ronan-online.com < sronan@ronan-online.com > Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 4:24 PM To: Rod Beck < rod.beck@unitedcablecompany.com >; NANOG Operators' Group < nanog@nanog.org > Cc: Shane Ronan < shane@ronan-online.com > Subject: Re: ASE - 100 Gig Wave Please review the Mailing List policies which specifically prohibit commercial discussions on the list. I would ask the list moderators to chime in here please Shane <blockquote> On Mar 18, 2021, at 11:14 AM, Rod Beck < rod.beck@unitedcablecompany.com > wrote: <blockquote> People post requests all the time. You are free to block me. And I know the majority of uses disagree with you. From: Shane Ronan < shane@ronan-online.com > Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 4:11 PM To: Rod Beck < rod.beck@unitedcablecompany.com > Cc: nanog@nanog.org < nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Re: ASE - 100 Gig Wave NANOG is not a service for receiving details on cable paths for commercial purposes. Please find somewhere else to collect this information. On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 10:54 AM Rod Beck < rod.beck@unitedcablecompany.com > wrote: <blockquote> This cable is tapped out and I need a 100 gig wave from Hong Kong to Singapore. 3 year term. Roderick Beck Global Network Capacity Procurement United Cable Company www.unitedcablecompany.com https://unitedcablecompany.com/video/ New York City & Budapest rod.beck@unitedcablecompany.com Budapest: 36-70-605-5144 NJ: 908-452-8183 1467221477350_image005.png </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote>
A very different and more appropriate list for the OP’s posts than NANOG. I have nothing to prove other than improving the quality of posts to the mailing list.
On Mar 18, 2021, at 12:06 PM, Mike Hammett <nanog@ics-il.net> wrote:
I see we've got the big swingers out today. Everyone's got something to prove.
That was one thing I liked about the old ISP-Bandwidth list. That's pretty much what all of the conversation was, trying to find quotes on services. I didn't order anything from there, but it was nice being a fly on the wall.
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com
Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com
From: "Shane Ronan" <shane@ronan-online.com> To: "Rod Beck" <rod.beck@unitedcablecompany.com> Cc: "NANOG Operators' Group" <nanog@nanog.org> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 10:57:38 AM Subject: Re: ASE - 100 Gig Wave
Far from underemployed and I'm not worried about it getting ugly, in fact, my next email will be to Eric Gutshall to complain about being threatened publicly by one of his employees.
I don't think this will end well for you.
On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 11:27 AM Rod Beck <rod.beck@unitedcablecompany.com> wrote: Actually, that language was intended to prohibit soliciting business and not asking for help. I have some hard words to describe like Shane Ronan, but I will forbear.
I suggest you cease and desist before this gets ugly. Obviously you are underemployed.
Get some work to do.
Best,
-R.
From: sronan@ronan-online.com <sronan@ronan-online.com> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 4:24 PM To: Rod Beck <rod.beck@unitedcablecompany.com>; NANOG Operators' Group <nanog@nanog.org> Cc: Shane Ronan <shane@ronan-online.com> Subject: Re: ASE - 100 Gig Wave
Please review the Mailing List policies which specifically prohibit commercial discussions on the list. I would ask the list moderators to chime in here please
Shane
On Mar 18, 2021, at 11:14 AM, Rod Beck <rod.beck@unitedcablecompany.com> wrote:
People post requests all the time. You are free to block me. And I know the majority of uses disagree with you.
From: Shane Ronan <shane@ronan-online.com> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 4:11 PM To: Rod Beck <rod.beck@unitedcablecompany.com> Cc: nanog@nanog.org <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Re: ASE - 100 Gig Wave
NANOG is not a service for receiving details on cable paths for commercial purposes. Please find somewhere else to collect this information.
On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 10:54 AM Rod Beck <rod.beck@unitedcablecompany.com> wrote: This cable is tapped out and I need a 100 gig wave from Hong Kong to Singapore. 3 year term.
Roderick Beck Global Network Capacity Procurement United Cable Company www.unitedcablecompany.com https://unitedcablecompany.com/video/ New York City & Budapest rod.beck@unitedcablecompany.com Budapest: 36-70-605-5144 NJ: 908-452-8183
On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 8:28 AM Rod Beck <rod.beck@unitedcablecompany.com> wrote:
Actually, that language was intended to prohibit soliciting business and not asking for help.
Hi Rod, Yes and no. "Would you help me identify who does cable between A and B?" may be on topic. "I'm soliciting bids for X" is certainly not. The "three year term" statement pushed you solidly into the latter. Regards, Bill Herrin -- William Herrin bill@herrin.us <https://bill.herrin.us/> https://bill.herrin.us/
On 3/18/21 18:11, William Herrin wrote:
Yes and no. "Would you help me identify who does cable between A and B?" may be on topic. "I'm soliciting bids for X" is certainly not. The "three year term" statement pushed you solidly into the latter.
Tend to agree with this. Asking what's available is cool. Full on procurement bits, less so... Mark.
A quick search shows the OP made 10 similar posts in just the month of March, which is what prompted by complaint. Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 18, 2021, at 12:43 PM, Mark Tinka <mark@tinka.africa> wrote:
On 3/18/21 18:11, William Herrin wrote:
Yes and no. "Would you help me identify who does cable between A and B?" may be on topic. "I'm soliciting bids for X" is certainly not. The "three year term" statement pushed you solidly into the latter.
Tend to agree with this.
Asking what's available is cool. Full on procurement bits, less so...
Mark.
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