And how exactly would you translate that membership into a voting eligibility? Anyone on the internet who wants to claim they provide network services can vote? I'm OK with that definition, but it will be hard to implement in terms of actually conducting voting in some rational manner. Owen
I disagree. The charter defines membership:
"The group will have membership that broadly includes network providers. These may include private, public, federal, commercial or other networks that consider themselves providers of Internet services. However the representatives attending this group should be prepared to engage in technical discussions. Membership should not be limited to North American participants though the general focus of the discussion should be from the NA networking point of view."
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----Original Message Follows---- From: owen@dixon.delong.sj.ca.us (Owen DeLong) To: nanog@merit.edu, kawaii_iinazuke@hotmail.com Subject: Re: Beer and Gear surprise Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 23:40:45 -0800
<fact> There is no NANOG membership. There is the NANOG community. There are no firm criteria for citizenship in said community, so it would be difficult to define a voting process in terms of who does or does not get to vote. </fact>
Owen
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On Thu, 22 Feb 2001 09:55:02 PST, owen@dixon.delong.sj.ca.us (Owen DeLong) said:
eligibility? Anyone on the internet who wants to claim they provide network services can vote? I'm OK with that definition, but it
We provide network services, we're technically not an ISP, but we invented the idea - do we count? ;) -- Valdis Kletnieks Operating Systems Analyst Virginia Tech
On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 09:55:02AM -0800, Owen DeLong wrote:
And how exactly would you translate that membership into a voting eligibility? Anyone on the internet who wants to claim they provide network services can vote? I'm OK with that definition, but it will be hard to implement in terms of actually conducting voting in some rational manner.
Consensus; if there's objection to anything, don't do it. It's not like NANOG provides a crucial service that can't possibly be provided by anyone else. It's a convenience. Merit does a bang-up job of hosting it, but a hundred other folks reading this email could do the same job.
On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 06:00:17PM -0500, Shawn McMahon wrote:
Merit does a bang-up job of hosting it, but a hundred other folks reading this email could do the same job.
In a relatively vendor-neutral way? I don't want to go to a trade show, which is probably what would happen if vendors started running the show. I'd rather go to something where I can chat with network operators and make our product better. Network operators may like freebies, but usually have a low tolerance to sales-droid spew. -- Jeff Haas NextHop Technologies
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Jeffrey Haas
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owen@dixon.delong.sj.ca.us
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Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu