Folks; Since early yesterday, much or all of BBN Cambridge has been down. Anyone know what is going on? More rodent adventures? Or did that gasoline truck I fantasized about really turn over into the parking level? --Kent TraceRoute noc.bbnplanet.com (199.94.209.25) timed out 1 292 292 205.163.24.49 nb49.cts.com 2 278 -14 205.163.24.33 ctshub-e1.cts.com 3 332 54 207.67.240.113 cts-gw-ds3.atmnet.net 4 306 -26 206.62.12.49 agis-atmnet.losangeles.agis.net 5 293 -13 205.254.168.249 a5-0.1009.santaclara3.agis.net 6 288 -5 198.32.136.14 mae-w.bbnplanet.net 7 277 -11 4.0.20.17 sanjose1-br2.bbnplanet.net 8 295 18 4.0.1.81 sanjose1-br1.bbnplanet.net 9 309 14 4.0.1.73 oakland-br2.bbnplanet.net 10 319 10 4.0.1.134 denver-br1.bbnplanet.net 11 313 -6 4.0.1.134 denver-br1.bbnplanet.net 12 323 10 4.0.1.190 denver-br2.bbnplanet.net 13 336 13 4.0.1.130 chicago1-br1.bbnplanet.net 14 407 71 4.0.1.194 chicago1-br2.bbnplanet.net 15 381 -26 4.0.1.126 boston1-br1.bbnplanet.net 16 613 232 4.0.1.182 boston1-br2.bbnplanet.net 17 1752 1139 4.0.1.158 cambridge1-br2.bbnplanet.net 18 * * timed out 19 * * timed out 20 * * timed out 21 * * timed out 22 * * timed out 23 * * timed out 24 * * timed out 25 * * timed out 26 * * timed out 27 * * timed out 28 * * timed out 29 * * timed out 30 * * timed out not reached
I am seeing the same behavior from the East Coast. -Deepak. On Fri, 1 Nov 1996, Kent W. England wrote:
Folks;
Since early yesterday, much or all of BBN Cambridge has been down. Anyone know what is going on? More rodent adventures? Or did that gasoline truck I fantasized about really turn over into the parking level?
--Kent
TraceRoute noc.bbnplanet.com (199.94.209.25) timed out 1 292 292 205.163.24.49 nb49.cts.com 2 278 -14 205.163.24.33 ctshub-e1.cts.com 3 332 54 207.67.240.113 cts-gw-ds3.atmnet.net 4 306 -26 206.62.12.49 agis-atmnet.losangeles.agis.net 5 293 -13 205.254.168.249 a5-0.1009.santaclara3.agis.net 6 288 -5 198.32.136.14 mae-w.bbnplanet.net 7 277 -11 4.0.20.17 sanjose1-br2.bbnplanet.net 8 295 18 4.0.1.81 sanjose1-br1.bbnplanet.net 9 309 14 4.0.1.73 oakland-br2.bbnplanet.net 10 319 10 4.0.1.134 denver-br1.bbnplanet.net 11 313 -6 4.0.1.134 denver-br1.bbnplanet.net 12 323 10 4.0.1.190 denver-br2.bbnplanet.net 13 336 13 4.0.1.130 chicago1-br1.bbnplanet.net 14 407 71 4.0.1.194 chicago1-br2.bbnplanet.net 15 381 -26 4.0.1.126 boston1-br1.bbnplanet.net 16 613 232 4.0.1.182 boston1-br2.bbnplanet.net 17 1752 1139 4.0.1.158 cambridge1-br2.bbnplanet.net 18 * * timed out 19 * * timed out 20 * * timed out 21 * * timed out 22 * * timed out 23 * * timed out 24 * * timed out 25 * * timed out 26 * * timed out 27 * * timed out 28 * * timed out 29 * * timed out 30 * * timed out not reached
On Fri, 1 Nov 1996, Kent W. England wrote:
Since early yesterday, much or all of BBN Cambridge has been down. Anyone know what is going on? More rodent adventures? Or did that gasoline truck I fantasized about really turn over into the parking level?
Since you asked... Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 10:48:31 GMT From: Internet Operations Center <ops@bbnplanet.com> Subject: #64057/9 (sites)cambridge2-cr2:The cambridge2-cr2 router has... Ticket Number: 64057 Ticket Opened: 10/31/96 08:03 GMT Ticket Type: unplanned/network Ticket Source: noc Ticket Scope: sites What: cambridge2-cr2 Ticket Owner: noc Report Time: 10/31/96 10:31 GMT Author: mgreenla Problem Started: 10/31/96 07:58 GMT Original Problem Description: The cambridge2-cr2 router has become unresponsive causing connectivty problems for all customers homed off this POP. *** Note #9 The SSE on this router was disabled. Planet network engineering working with the NOC reloaded the router and connectivity was restored. Network engineering is investigating the root cause of this outage. ================================================================= BBN Planet Corporation, provider of world-class Internet Services including AT&T WorldNet(SM) Managed Internet Services. For more information, contact our Internet Operations Center at 1.800.632.7638 or 1.617.873.8730 or ops@bbnplanet.com. _ | | |-| | |pu <apu@spfld.com>
Since early yesterday, much or all of BBN Cambridge has been down. Anyone know what is going on?
I know this will come as a complete shock to you. But the probability that the BBN NOC does is above 0.5, and that the members of this list do is below 0.1. Contrary to some people's belief, this list is not the worldwide NOC or trouble reporting system. randy
I would tend to agree. I consider this a list where people talk about networking in north america, to work together to determine what others are doing, and to get a feel for the technical side of the north american internet connectivity. Things like bbn, agis, iMCI, and S-link outages should go to their NOCs when you notice them. We can talk about them here, but I would think (big assumption on my part) that it would be more about "The router at cambridge did XXX, or is doing YYY, anyone else seen this before?" or other such issues like "Don't you hate it when your router does ZZZ?", and we can form a group that wants to go after vendors. It makes no sense to report outages here, all the NOCs of isps do not monitor this list, and it would not make sense for them to either, becuase currently it has too high of a ratio of unimportant stuff per important and good knowledge. - jared Randy Bush graced my mailbox with this long sought knowledge:
Since early yesterday, much or all of BBN Cambridge has been down. Anyone know what is going on?
I know this will come as a complete shock to you. But the probability that the BBN NOC does is above 0.5, and that the members of this list do is below 0.1.
Contrary to some people's belief, this list is not the worldwide NOC or trouble reporting system.
randy
I haven't seen any traffic on outage-discuss@academ.com in the month that I've been subscribed, so I don't know if this has been hashed over already. Perhaps this discussion should be redirected there, but... I think it might be useful to have a list that an ISP or other Net user could check to see if a problem had been _reported_, or to see the extent of an outage as reported by the users of the systems in question. I know my helpdesk people would like to know about unreachable sites before they go having Joe Luser tear apart his trumpwsk.ini. I realize NANOG is not the place, but neither is a cacophony like inet-access. There are only a few vendors using the RA's IPN page...and outage-discuss is for the discussion of mechanisms to report such...why not just create a list for the discussion of outages themselves in the mean time? In a previous message, Jared Mauch wrote:
[snip]
and we can form a group that wants to go after vendors. [snip] It makes no sense to report outages here, all the NOCs of isps do not monitor this list, and it would not make sense for them to either, becuase currently it has too high of a ratio of unimportant stuff per important and good knowledge.
- jared
Randy Bush graced my mailbox with this long sought knowledge:
Since early yesterday, much or all of BBN Cambridge has been down. Anyone know what is going on?
I know this will come as a complete shock to you. But the probability that the BBN NOC does is above 0.5, and that the members of this list do is below 0.1.
Contrary to some people's belief, this list is not the worldwide NOC or trouble reporting system.
randy
-- David Carmean WB6YZM DC574 <dlc@silcom.com> System/Network Administration, Silicon Beach Communications Unsolicited commercial e-mail not accepted. Violators will be LARTed.
Some word about BBN would have been worth it to me when answering calls because when your clients call your tech support area, their impression is that if they can't reach a particular site on the Internet, no matter how far removed you are from the path of the packet, they'll assume it's *your* problem. Them: "Your connection to the Internet is down" Us: "Uhm... it's been up and running for the last week and a half" Then: "I can't get to Lotus' site in Boston" Us: "Ah... our connection to the Internet is NOT down but some other org you're trying to reach appears to have a problem..." I would have had a much more intelligent answer to give had I known there was a blip in BBN's network rather than do my own traceroutes and speculate about what could have happened. On Fri, 1 Nov 1996, David Carmean wrote:
I haven't seen any traffic on outage-discuss@academ.com in the month that I've been subscribed, so I don't know if this has been hashed over already. Perhaps this discussion should be redirected there, but...
I think it might be useful to have a list that an ISP or other Net user could check to see if a problem had been _reported_, or to see the extent of an outage as reported by the users of the systems in question. I know my helpdesk people would like to know about unreachable sites before they go having Joe Luser tear apart his trumpwsk.ini. I realize NANOG is not the place, but neither is a cacophony like inet-access.
There are only a few vendors using the RA's IPN page...and outage-discuss is for the discussion of mechanisms to report such...why not just create a list for the discussion of outages themselves in the mean time?
In a previous message, Jared Mauch wrote:
[snip]
and we can form a group that wants to go after vendors. [snip] It makes no sense to report outages here, all the NOCs of isps do not monitor this list, and it would not make sense for them to either, becuase currently it has too high of a ratio of unimportant stuff per important and good knowledge.
- jared
Randy Bush graced my mailbox with this long sought knowledge:
Since early yesterday, much or all of BBN Cambridge has been down. Anyone know what is going on?
I know this will come as a complete shock to you. But the probability that the BBN NOC does is above 0.5, and that the members of this list do is below 0.1.
Contrary to some people's belief, this list is not the worldwide NOC or trouble reporting system.
randy
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