Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr. wrote:

Even if the water company is sending me 85% TriChlorEthane?

Right. Got it. The victim is always responsible.

There you have it folks.

Ok. Being resposible as network manager, if I think something is strange and I nor my staff can fix it. I call for help. Either Vendor support, a good consultant, or community help. In many cases the Victim always has some portion of responsibilty. If I leave a Windows 2000 server SP 0 no security fixes on my network, get it hacked and have a lawsuit cause XYZ company caught a hacker attack from it.... who is the Victim? who is responsible? This may be exactly what that guy did.... I think Sean sent out the California law reference last year that said the VICTIM of a security breach must report it to their customers... I think we have alot of operational issues that we must look at here.. What do we do? Many AUP's I have seen would have shut down that customer, if someone complained..... Does this mean if we go to a for profit bandwidth charge system that we let people destroy others with the worms they have for money we would get chargeing for the worm attack? Jim