OT: Re: [[Infowarrior] - NSA Said to Have Used Heartbleed Bug for Years]
:: There being no cable between the Hawaiian Islands :: and the mainland at the time Wait...what? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Submarine_communications_cable#Submarine_cable... "The first trans-pacific cables were completed in 1902-03, linking the US mainland to Hawaii in 1902 and Guam to the Philippines in 1903. Canada, Australia, New Zealand and Fiji were also linked in 1902. scott --- mikea@mikea.ath.cx wrote: From: Mike A <mikea@mikea.ath.cx> On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 10:09:14PM +0000, Matthew Black wrote:
IIRC, the message was sent via courier instead of cable or telephone to prevent interception. Did the military not even trust its own cryptographic methods? Or did they not think withdrawal of the Japanese ambassador was not very critical?
The message was sent by Western Union. There being no cable between the Hawaiian Islands and the mainland at the time, the message went by commercial radio, in plaintext, and thence by civilian bicycle messenger (of Japanese ancestry, as it happened) to Fort Shafter, where it was read while the attack was in progress. David Kahn's fine book, _The Codebreakers_, discusses this in rather more detail. I recommend the original version; the paperback and later hardback editions contain rather less meat. -- Mike Andrews, W5EGO mikea@mikea.ath.cx Tired old sysadmin
On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 03:47:25PM -0700, Scott Weeks wrote:
:: There being no cable between the Hawaiian Islands :: and the mainland at the time
Wait...what?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Submarine_communications_cable#Submarine_cable...
"The first trans-pacific cables were completed in 1902-03, linking the US mainland to Hawaii in 1902 and Guam to the Philippines in 1903. Canada, Australia, New Zealand and Fiji were also linked in 1902.
Thanks! I slouch (really comfy chair) corrected. But the War Dept. didn't have the cable sent by cable. And I really am grateful for the information. -- Mike Andrews, W5EGO mikea@mikea.ath.cx Tired old sysadmin
FYI... Say it isn't so.... In today's Heartbleed state of affairs... attrition.org uses an invalid security certificate. The certificate is not trusted because it is self-signed. The certificate is only valid for Lyger The certificate expired on.... 12/21/2012 1:44 PM. The current time is 4/21/2014 6:18 PM. (Error code: sec_error_expired_issuer_certificate) Ruff, Ruff...! Network IPdog Ephesians 4:32 & Cheers!!! A password is like a... toothbrush ;^) Choose a good one, change it regularly and don't share it. -----Original Message----- From: Scott Weeks [mailto:surfer@mauigateway.com] Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 3:47 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: OT: Re: [[Infowarrior] - NSA Said to Have Used Heartbleed Bug for Years] :: There being no cable between the Hawaiian Islands :: and the mainland at the time Wait...what? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Submarine_communications_cable#Submarine_cable... "The first trans-pacific cables were completed in 1902-03, linking the US mainland to Hawaii in 1902 and Guam to the Philippines in 1903. Canada, Australia, New Zealand and Fiji were also linked in 1902. scott --- mikea@mikea.ath.cx wrote: From: Mike A <mikea@mikea.ath.cx> On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 10:09:14PM +0000, Matthew Black wrote:
IIRC, the message was sent via courier instead of cable or telephone to prevent interception. Did the military not even trust its own cryptographic methods? Or did they not think withdrawal of the Japanese ambassador was not very critical?
The message was sent by Western Union. There being no cable between the Hawaiian Islands and the mainland at the time, the message went by commercial radio, in plaintext, and thence by civilian bicycle messenger (of Japanese ancestry, as it happened) to Fort Shafter, where it was read while the attack was in progress. David Kahn's fine book, _The Codebreakers_, discusses this in rather more detail. I recommend the original version; the paperback and later hardback editions contain rather less meat. -- Mike Andrews, W5EGO mikea@mikea.ath.cx Tired old sysadmin
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