I've heard the same story as Tony, from Ascend/Netstar folks. We run 5 GRF1600s in the vBNS--I have a love/hate relationship with them, but they are "maturing" ;) Randy At 12:15 AM 4/26/97 -0700, Tony Li wrote:

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Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought the GRF-400 was an Ascend product and the GRF-1600 is the NetStar GigaRouter, with some additional developments.

The GRF-400 is out there in networks like AGIS, NetRail, PSI, DOMINO and Savvis. No word on any NetStar-cum-GRF1600 deployments.

Am I right?

My understanding is that the GRF-400 is just a 4 slot version of the GRF-1600, modulo cosmetic differences, branding etc. Certainly this is one of the easiest ways that one can take a crossbar switch and produce a cost reduced, bandwidth reduced midrange.

Tony

p.s. Do I hear a chainsaw in Minneapolis? ;-) ;-) ;-)

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