...or if you just want to look at BGP route/path stuff, try one of the route servers. Here's a good link: http://www.inetdaemon.com/tools/route_servers.html - ferg -- "Scott Morris" <swm@emanon.com> wrote: None of the routers that are tested in the lab are capable of supporting a full BGP feed.... If you just want to play with BGP stuff, you can use Zebra (unix) or go to www.nantech.com and get their BGP4WIN program. That may help you a bit more. Scott -- "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson Engineering Architecture for the Internet fergdawg@netzero.net or fergdawg@sbcglobal.net ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/