Re: IP provider performance measurement BOF
A first step of talking about the issues and how to do this (NSP performance) seems like a good idea to me.
Mind, this was tried several times before with limited success. We do, however, need updates to RFC 1291.
Vikas's efforts live on in GISD. Developing new and different ways of measuring Internet performance is always a win, when said method tells us and the consumer something useful. Developing a sales checklist for ISPs is probably not the mission of the IETF.
We might also want to look at the OP-STAT WG efforts that Henry Clark and Nevell have been working on.
Note that what we're doing is *COMPLETELY* unrelated to 1291 or GISD. Seen that hole and have successfully driven around it :-). henry
We might also want to look at the OP-STAT WG efforts that Henry Clark and Nevell have been working on.
Note that what we're doing is *COMPLETELY* unrelated to 1291 or GISD. Seen that hole and have successfully driven around it :-).
I would think that you really can't measure performance w/o standardized metrics for collecting operational statistics. And GISD appears to be in stasis. -- --bill
bmanning@ISI.EDU writes: * > >We might also want to * > >look at the OP-STAT WG efforts that Henry Clark and Nevell have * > >been working on. * > * > Note that what we're doing is *COMPLETELY* unrelated to 1291 or GISD. Se * en * > that hole and have successfully driven around it :-). * > * * I would think that you really can't measure performance w/o standardized * metrics for collecting operational statistics. * * And GISD appears to be in stasis. * To expand on this a little. GISD is somewhat at a standstill. I am partly repsonsible for this for starting something and not seeing it through due to change of projects at the time. Unfortunately the new chair of this group has also had little time to put in. This could be a very useful part of the provider performance work but will need some direct drive at this point. --Tony.
Tony Bates <Tony.Bates@mci.net> writes: To expand on this a little. GISD is somewhat at a standstill. I am partly repsonsible for this for starting something and not seeing it through due to change of projects at the time. Unfortunately the new chair of this group has also had little time to put in. This could be a very useful part of the provider performance work but will need some direct drive at this point.
Tony, you are not to blame for the standstill. You have helped to establish a very good framework for a service description together with a plan on how to fill it with substance. Apparently there is not enough interest anywhere to put in the work. Otherwise someone would have taken the lead and others would have followed. Daniel
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