When we started last time trying to organize a NAP meeting, we quickly realized that RA will do a better job than Bellcore in coordinating among multiple (not necessarily communicating) awardees. Indeed, I am sure most people will agree they did a superb job in organizing the premeeting, the agenda, as well as the entertainment (whirlly ball?) Also our legal department was uneasy about us coordinating the meeting. So, I would like to sencond Farooq's suggestion. We like Bill's suggested topics. There are other issues such as RFC1323 performance issues that ANS may have something to say. We would be happy to help organize the meeting including supplying speakers, suggest vendor names, and help making phone calls, etc. Liang ----------
In message <199409251450.KAA02236@faline.bellcore.com>, Liang T. Wu writes:
We like Bill's suggested topics. There are other issues such as RFC1323 performance issues that ANS may have something to say.
Liang, Since you brought it up - it still would be nice if Bellcore brought some equipment over and did some performance testing using long delay paths and high utilizations before fully deploying the NAPs. For a month now I've been hearing that we (Bellcore) should be ready "some time next week". That is the current status. Some testing is better than none, so please bring what you have. Looking forward to seeing you some time next week. Curtis BTW - The last mention of this on the list was (Sep 2) in <9409021856.AA06954@wawa.ans.net>: While ANS doesn't have any magic, we do have a fair amount of operational experience with a large IP backbone and are as familiar as anyone with the requirements it places on the routers. I do hope Bellcore chooses to take advantage of our offer to help test. We had taken this off line as suggested in a prior message (Sep 1) <9409011750.AA11176@wawa.ans.net>: If you are interested we can take this discussion off line and work out the logistics. It would be in the interest of a smooth transition to know what the limits are. There may be cause for concern or no problem at all. in reply to (Sep 1) <199409011631.MAA15030@faline.bellcore.com>: We have done tests on two switches with various configurations - 10 sparcstaions, 3 7000's, AGS+, Kentrox, as well as other boxes for bridging protocol stacks. We have not yet artificially insert 70 msec delay. With your request, we will get on to that ASAP. One question here: since we are happy with what we found out so far in the lab it would be nice if we move the tests closer and closer to the real environment. I heard you have a test network. Can I connect my NAP prototype at Morristown NJ to your test network to study the effect of cross country delay? but so far nothing has happenned. In all fairness to Bellcore, they have been quite dilegently rounding up equipment from Kentrox, Cisco, Fore, RFC1323 for Sun, etc. The message above may have left the impression that Bellcore was ready to go whenever ANS was ready to host them, which was not quite the case. This is just an FYI to those wondering whatever came of the Bellcore/ANS discussion on this list and agreement to take things off line and get some testing going.
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