Where there's a nanog thread there'll be a vendor solution .. Re: Ethical DDoS drone network
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 10:24 PM, BATTLES, TIMOTHY A (TIM), ATTLABS <tmbattles@att.com> wrote:
There are some assumptions here. First are you considering volumetric DDOS attacks? Second, if you plan on harvesting wild bots and using them to serve your purpose then I don't see how this can be ethical unless they are just clients from your own network making it less distributed.
I cant believe this .. http://www.iprental.com Looks like anonymizer combined with what looks almost like a "rent a botnet", legit nodes (you sign up to download a client that makes you part of this botnet, etc) http://www.iprental.com/technical/ Speaking of a "commercial botnet"", there was something similar earlier - but that was a "download this bulk mailer" type operation, guys called Atriks, who got tracked so extensively by spamhaus that they seem to have kind of disappeared now. --srs
This is new to you? Polymorphic anonymizers have been a way of life for a while now. Jeff On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 7:55 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian <ops.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 10:24 PM, BATTLES, TIMOTHY A (TIM), ATTLABS <tmbattles@att.com> wrote:
There are some assumptions here. First are you considering volumetric DDOS attacks? Second, if you plan on harvesting wild bots and using them to serve your purpose then I don't see how this can be ethical unless they are just clients from your own network making it less distributed.
I cant believe this .. http://www.iprental.com
Looks like anonymizer combined with what looks almost like a "rent a botnet", legit nodes (you sign up to download a client that makes you part of this botnet, etc)
http://www.iprental.com/technical/
Speaking of a "commercial botnet"", there was something similar earlier - but that was a "download this bulk mailer" type operation, guys called Atriks, who got tracked so extensively by spamhaus that they seem to have kind of disappeared now.
--srs
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On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Jeffrey Lyon <jeffrey.lyon@blacklotus.net> wrote:
This is new to you? Polymorphic anonymizers have been a way of life for a while now.
Jeff
I just thought I'd cite an example. These have been around for a while, as you say. -- Suresh Ramasubramanian (ops.lists@gmail.com)
I cant believe this .. http://www.iprental.com
sheesh! and i thought the rirs had a monopoly on ip address rental. :) randy
----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Bush" Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 7:30 PM Subject: Re: Where there's a nanog thread there'll be a vendor solution ..Re: Ethical DDoS drone network
I cant believe this .. http://www.iprental.com
sheesh! and i thought the rirs had a monopoly on ip address rental. :)
randy
I watched the 'Demo Video' and the addresses shown were from AT&T and Comcast space. Any idea of what space they might be from in real life or is that part of their secret sauce? Thanks, --Michael
On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 12:52 PM, Michael Painter <tvhawaii@shaka.com> wrote:
I watched the 'Demo Video' and the addresses shown were from AT&T and Comcast space. Any idea of what space they might be from in real life or is that part of their secret sauce?
J.Random ADSL / cable space I dare say. Though what said cable / adsl SPs would have to say about "reselling of service is an AUP violation" is anybody's guess :) --srs -- Suresh Ramasubramanian (ops.lists@gmail.com)
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