Re: The Choice: IPv4 Exhaustion or Transition to IPv6
Chuck et. al; On 6/28/07, chuck goolsbee <chucklist@forest.net> wrote:
You left out: The "killer-app." Compelling content *only* available via the alternative technology. The IPv-ONLY google/porn/web/tube/iphone/whatever that enough people want/desire/need/are-willing-to-pay-for to move the network to IPv6.
Dancing turtles and possible future v6-only porn-repositories aside, I was recently recently wondering about another end-user v6 enticement that I'm sure must have been considered but which I haven't seen proposed before. I wonder what it would take to convince a major online retailer (Amazon?), an auction site (eBay?) or even transaction handlers (google checkout, paypal?) to put up v6 portals that offered across-the-board (or even select) discounts to customers coming in through their v6-only portal? Perhaps I'm simply too naive, but I would imagine that even a small % discount (from within the business' profit margin) would be incentive enough to get customers to at least start asking how they can get access to this cheaper IPv6 portal... (the lengths many people will go to to save a little money, often even spending more than they save in the process, is amazing in and of itself) ...I would think it would also cause additional publicity for the sites from the ensuing (even if only in the tech community) news reporting, and that there may even be future gov't incentives (write-off the discount?) for such practices. Just some thoughts... ~Aaron
On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 13:27:30 EDT, Aaron Daubman said:
I wonder what it would take to convince a major online retailer (Amazon?), an auction site (eBay?) or even transaction handlers (google checkout, paypal?) to put up v6 portals that offered across-the-board (or even select) discounts to customers coming in through their v6-only portal?
OK. Now what's in it for *Amazon*? And who's going to foot the bill? Now, if somebody came up with a clever way for Amazon's connectivity providers to be able to provide IPv6 bytes cheaper than IPv4 bytes....
On Thu, Jun 28, 2007 at 01:27:30PM -0400, Aaron Daubman wrote:
On 6/28/07, chuck goolsbee <chucklist@forest.net> wrote:
You left out: The "killer-app." Compelling content *only* available via the alternative technology. The IPv-ONLY google/porn/web/tube/iphone/whatever that enough people want/desire/need/are-willing-to-pay-for to move the network to IPv6.
I wonder what it would take to convince a major online retailer (Amazon?), an auction site (eBay?) or even transaction handlers (google checkout, paypal?) to put up v6 portals that offered across-the-board (or even select) discounts to customers coming in through their v6-only portal?
i presume it would take you to pay for the shortfall plus the cost of their implementing this distinction
Perhaps I'm simply too naive, but I would imagine that even a small % discount (from within the business' profit margin) would be incentive enough to get customers to at least start asking how they can get access to this cheaper IPv6 portal... (the lengths many people will go to to save a little money, often even spending more than they save in the process, is amazing in and of itself)
i cant understand why any retailer would limit its access to the marketplace for the sake of an obscure technical argument that their beardy long haired IT guy reckons is a good idea. imagine the board room discussion.. "and this will limit us to only 0.5% of our global market?" "and we need to by $x,xxx,xxx of new hardware to make this happen?" "and it will take xxxx man hours at a cost of $xxx,xxx?" this is the core of my argument here about whether v6 is the obvious solution to v4 depletion - what is the cost to push this technology vs other options. it needs to be cheaper else you are working an uphill battle
...I would think it would also cause additional publicity for the sites from the ensuing (even if only in the tech community) news reporting, and that there may even be future gov't incentives (write-off the discount?) for such practices.
well, that may well be worth some $$$ but only if you are the first one! and if i were amazon, i'd say okay i'll do this but i'm only going to list my networking books on this v6 system - i can entertain the technical world, not lose any revenue, incur a minimal cost, and get the marketing points Steve
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