Another organization I'm in has a hard policy of no recordings of any sessions at their conferences. They think that recordings of content (even vendor-sponsored, vendor-specific sessions with vendor consent) would have a catastrophic effect on conference attendance. NANOG doesn't seem to have that issue. Any background on the process to get there? Any regrets? ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP
On Mar 13, 2017, at 2:52 PM, Mike Hammett <nanog@ics-il.net> wrote:
Another organization I'm in has a hard policy of no recordings of any sessions at their conferences. They think that recordings of content (even vendor-sponsored, vendor-specific sessions with vendor consent) would have a catastrophic effect on conference attendance.
NANOG doesn't seem to have that issue. Any background on the process to get there? Any regrets?
Many attendees also find value in the parts of the conference that aren't recorded, like hallway conversations, informal meetings, and even social events. Keeping and maintaining the archive of slides and video recordings is an essential part of NANOG's educational mission, which was key to obtaining and maintaining the IRS 401(c)(3) nonprofit status. So at least for the time I was on the Board, not only were there no regrets, but we worked hard to maintain and enhance the video experience. Steve
On Mar 13, 2017, at 6:06 PM, Steve Feldman <feldman@twincreeks.net> wrote:
On Mar 13, 2017, at 2:52 PM, Mike Hammett <nanog@ics-il.net> wrote:
Another organization I'm in has a hard policy of no recordings of any sessions at their conferences. They think that recordings of content (even vendor-sponsored, vendor-specific sessions with vendor consent) would have a catastrophic effect on conference attendance.
NANOG doesn't seem to have that issue. Any background on the process to get there? Any regrets?
Many attendees also find value in the parts of the conference that aren't recorded, like hallway conversations, informal meetings, and even social events.
Keeping and maintaining the archive of slides and video recordings is an essential part of NANOG's educational mission, which was key to obtaining and maintaining the IRS 401(c)(3) nonprofit status.
So at least for the time I was on the Board, not only were there no regrets, but we worked hard to maintain and enhance the video experience.
<speaking only for myself> Speakers are informed they are going to be recorded. If they have sensitive information, they can choose a track and ask it not be recorded. NANOG has done this in the past, but you should talk to the Program Committee if you are interested in this. -- TTFN, patrick
Speakers are informed they are going to be recorded. If they have sensitive information, they can choose a track and ask it not be recorded. NANOG has done this in the past, but you should talk to the Program Committee if you are interested in this.
We've had this within UKNOF ... sometimes people do not wish to be recorded, mainly due to confidentiality reasons (ie: advance heads up, or personal thoughts delivered to a specific audience). Occasionally we have been asked to remove recordings at a later date due to changing circumstances etc. We explicitly mention the webcast/records on abstract submissions from memory, and also recently introduced shepherding to help presentations be more relevant (both to the speakers to help them in pushing a $clue or message, to our audience to ensure relevance and to us in terms of protection from litigation, etc). This applies to both submitted AND sponsor talks (the latter being incredibly useful and has shown a major increase in sponsor talk relevance and feedback ratings). People will always mention a lack of recording/webcast for this type of content ... but then arguably that is a driver to attend in person. Thanks Chris (UKNOF PC Chair)
Has there been some assessment of how justified have those seeking the "right to be forgotten" been in becoming forgotten? By doing so does it risk changing the record in a way that is not beneficial to the community and historical record? I warmly second the plaudit and thanks to Brandon for his support of UKNOF. He has played a very substantial part in making UKNOF what it is today. Christian
Chris Russell <mailto:chris@nifry.com> 14 March 2017 at 08:23
We've had this within UKNOF ... sometimes people do not wish to be recorded, mainly due to confidentiality reasons (ie: advance heads up, or personal thoughts delivered to a specific audience). Occasionally we have been asked to remove recordings at a later date due to changing circumstances etc.
We explicitly mention the webcast/records on abstract submissions from memory, and also recently introduced shepherding to help presentations be more relevant (both to the speakers to help them in pushing a $clue or message, to our audience to ensure relevance and to us in terms of protection from litigation, etc). This applies to both submitted AND sponsor talks (the latter being incredibly useful and has shown a major increase in sponsor talk relevance and feedback ratings).
People will always mention a lack of recording/webcast for this type of content ... but then arguably that is a driver to attend in person.
Thanks
Chris (UKNOF PC Chair)
Patrick W. Gilmore <mailto:patrick@ianai.net> 13 March 2017 at 22:10
<speaking only for myself>
Speakers are informed they are going to be recorded. If they have sensitive information, they can choose a track and ask it not be recorded. NANOG has done this in the past, but you should talk to the Program Committee if you are interested in this.
Steve Feldman <mailto:feldman@twincreeks.net> 13 March 2017 at 22:06
Many attendees also find value in the parts of the conference that aren't recorded, like hallway conversations, informal meetings, and even social events.
Keeping and maintaining the archive of slides and video recordings is an essential part of NANOG's educational mission, which was key to obtaining and maintaining the IRS 401(c)(3) nonprofit status.
So at least for the time I was on the Board, not only were there no regrets, but we worked hard to maintain and enhance the video experience. Steve
Mike Hammett <mailto:nanog@ics-il.net> 13 March 2017 at 21:52 Another organization I'm in has a hard policy of no recordings of any sessions at their conferences. They think that recordings of content (even vendor-sponsored, vendor-specific sessions with vendor consent) would have a catastrophic effect on conference attendance.
NANOG doesn't seem to have that issue. Any background on the process to get there? Any regrets?
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions
Midwest Internet Exchange
The Brothers WISP
-- Christian de Larrinaga FBCS, CITP, ------------------------- @ FirstHand ------------------------- +44 7989 386778 cdel@firsthand.net -------------------------
I have referred to online sessions from the past several times. NANOG is great at preserving information, compared to other conferences. In addition, if you attend a conference, say you have to missed a session due to business distractions, you can usually watch it that evening in your room. If you stayed out too late and you'd rather have a late breakfast and order room service, you can watch/attend sessions virtually from your room. Thank You Bob Evans CTO
On Mar 13, 2017, at 2:52 PM, Mike Hammett <nanog@ics-il.net> wrote:
Another organization I'm in has a hard policy of no recordings of any sessions at their conferences. They think that recordings of content (even vendor-sponsored, vendor-specific sessions with vendor consent) would have a catastrophic effect on conference attendance.
NANOG doesn't seem to have that issue. Any background on the process to get there? Any regrets?
Many attendees also find value in the parts of the conference that aren't recorded, like hallway conversations, informal meetings, and even social events.
Keeping and maintaining the archive of slides and video recordings is an essential part of NANOG's educational mission, which was key to obtaining and maintaining the IRS 401(c)(3) nonprofit status.
So at least for the time I was on the Board, not only were there no regrets, but we worked hard to maintain and enhance the video experience. Steve
On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 04:52:01PM -0500, Mike Hammett wrote:
Another organization I'm in has a hard policy of no recordings of any sessions at their conferences. They think that recordings of content (even vendor-sponsored, vendor-specific sessions with vendor consent) would have a catastrophic effect on conference attendance.
Check out the Openstack Summits, a conference that records *everything*, and attendence keeps going up. Cheers, -j
On Mon Mar 13, 2017 at 04:52:01PM -0500, Mike Hammett wrote:
Another organization I'm in has a hard policy of no recordings of any sessions at their conferences. They think that recordings of content (even vendor-sponsored, vendor-specific sessions with vendor consent) would have a catastrophic effect on conference attendance.
We record and put on youtube the uknof.org.uk meetings and it still gets bigger every time (around 3x growth since we started streaming). Hard to think anyone still doesn't understand internet. Video or it never happened. brandon
We record and put on youtube the uknof.org.uk meetings and it still gets bigger every time (around 3x growth since we started streaming).
- and we at UKNOF are grateful for Brandon for doing this... :) In terms of UKNOF, we get complaints when we DON'T webcast content or make video's available on YouTube, overall, people coming to meetings is somewhere between coming to see the content and also to network. The YouTube presence helps us to spread the word of the meeting and be as inclusive as possible, on the other hand, we are entirely sponsor funded and try to avoid a charge for attendance. Chris
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