[OPINION] Best place in the US for NetAdmins
I've been trying to decide for a while what makes a good home for a Network Admin... access to physical, reliable upstream routes? good selection of local taverns? What, in your opinion, makes a good location for a Network Admin and where in the US would you find that? Also, I'd like to introduce myself [[ o/ ]] I've been watching the list for a while now and have found it helpful with picking up some "best practices", getting use-case scenarios you might not see in text books. I attended Michigan Tech for Computer Networking and System Administration and have been bouncing around for a couple of years trying to find my calling. I've been working a lot with VoIP and that's been my interest ever since middle school. I've been mainly playing with stub networks for most of my life but have recently started working with larger routed networks, leading me to subscribe to the NANOG list. My latest endeavor was acquiring and ASN and a /24 from ARIN and multihoming a very small MSP. I've been fortunate enough to have really sharp mentors to help answer any questions I've had along the way. I know there must be quite a few people like myself that are lurking on the list and I just wanted to thank you guys for answering other questions and providing input on topics that have come through the list. TL;DR: Hi, see subject
On 2014-07-22 18:20, Nolan Rollo wrote:
I've been trying to decide for a while what makes a good home for a Network Admin... access to physical, reliable upstream routes? good selection of local taverns? What, in your opinion, makes a good location for a Network Admin and where in the US would you find that?
Hmmmm. That's a great question. Well does the network admin mostly travel to job sites? Or work remotely? If either/both are true, I'd suggest the DFW area. It's a major hub in both internet and travel respects. (I fly American Airlines exclusively, I live in Austin. Most flights are AUS-DFW-$FINALHOP).
Also, I'd like to introduce myself [[ o/ ]] I've been watching the list for a while now and have found it helpful with picking up some "best practices", getting use-case scenarios you might not see in text books.
Is that code for "all you crazies doing crazy things for crazier bosses?" :) Welcome to the list sir! I attended Michigan Tech for Computer Networking and System
Administration and have been bouncing around for a couple of years trying to find my calling.
Yeah. That happens. I've been working a lot with VoIP and
that's been my interest ever since middle school. I've been mainly playing with stub networks for most of my life but have recently started working with larger routed networks, leading me to subscribe to the NANOG list.
Excellent! My latest endeavor was acquiring and ASN and a /24
from ARIN and multihoming a very small MSP.
Oooo. How did that go for you? What upstreams did you connect with? How painful was it? How much convincing did it take to get management to go along? What are the post implementation improvements? etc etc. I've been fortunate enough
to have really sharp mentors to help answer any questions I've had along the way. I know there must be quite a few people like myself that are lurking on the list and I just wanted to thank you guys for answering other questions and providing input on topics that have come through the list.
Yes. Many lurkers, many off list replies to most threads. Did you get any awesome off list replies? Summarize them back to the list?
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 7:20 PM, Nolan Rollo <nrollo@kw-corp.com> wrote:
I've been trying to decide for a while what makes a good home for a Network Admin... access to physical, reliable upstream routes? good selection of local taverns? What, in your opinion, makes a good location for a Network Admin and where in the US would you find that?
Hi Nolan, Back in the days of lore when the Internet ran over telephone lines instead of the other way around, the most substantial long haul communications hub in the country was Northern Virginia's Dulles Corridor. More than any other area, leased lines to and from anywhere transited northern VA because that's how the long distance telephone infrastructure was built. Move the call here, switch it, move it back out. This made it the cheapest place to hub your Internet backbone. Indeed, the first large Internet Exchange Point, MAE-East was originally a FDDI ring at 8100 Boone Blvd, Vienna VA in the area known as Tysons Corner. The Internet is much more distributed now, but the area still retains its legacy. Lots of Internet companies continue to house major facilities here and operations such as ARIN are headquartered here. More, many of the folks you've come to know on NANOG and in other forums live and work here. Bonuses: With the possible exception of NYC, nowhere in the U.S. has more or finer quality cultural institutions than DC and its suburbs (Northern Virginia). The Smithsonian's extensive network of museums, the Kennedy Center, and so on. Federal money tends not to wander far, so you'll never want for paying work in Northern Virginia. Nowhere I've traveled has a broader selection of good restaurants. Most places have a local food with a bunch of good restaurants for that food, but we have all the foods and at least a few restaurants for each which are exceptional. Casual conversation is heavy on politics and matters of import Less than wonderful: Not the worst traffic in the nation but not far from it High rent, high cost of living Political conversation is inescapable
good selection of local taverns?
Octoberfest at the German embassy annex at Dulles Airport. ;) Regards, Bill Herrin -- William Herrin ................ herrin@dirtside.com bill@herrin.us Owner, Dirtside Systems ......... Web: <http://www.dirtside.com/> Can I solve your unusual networking challenges?
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On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 7:20 PM, Nolan Rollo <nrollo@kw-corp.com> wrote:
I've been trying to decide for a while what makes a good home for a Network Admin... access to physical, reliable upstream routes? good selection of local taverns? What, in your opinion, makes a good location for a Network Admin and where in the US would you find that? Hi Nolan,
Back in the days of lore when the Internet ran over telephone lines instead of the other way around, the most substantial long haul communications hub in the country was Northern Virginia's Dulles Corridor. More than any other area, leased lines to and from anywhere transited northern VA because that's how the long distance telephone infrastructure was built. Move the call here, switch it, move it back out. This made it the cheapest place to hub your Internet backbone. Indeed, the first large Internet Exchange Point, MAE-East was originally a FDDI ring at 8100 Boone Blvd, Vienna VA in the area known as Tysons Corner.
And here I thought all the submarine cables terminated in Moristown, NJ and Florida. Still DC is a nice place to live. Miles Fidelmn -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. .... Yogi Berra
On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 17:52:05 -0400, Miles Fidelman said:
Still DC is a nice place to live.
Depends on your definition of "nice". I'm perfectly OK with the fact that when I look out the window here in my office, the skyline is mostly National Forest. Not many places in DC have that going for them....
Personally, I think the SF bay area has you beat. Bill, on your list of not so wonderful things in DC, you left off: Weather In the sumer, the DC area is, well, what you’d expect from a hot, humid, fetid swamp. In the winter, you can make ice cream outside without rock salt (though there’s plenty of salt available on the roads). The spring and fall aren’t bad (for about 2 weeks each). Otherwise, the weather is not at all wonderful in that area. SF has a very wide variety of cultural exhibitions, activities, and institutions. We also have nearly as wide a variety of ethnic cuisine as you can find in New York (wider than DC/NoVA from what I’ve seen, actually). We also have a major concentration of technology and internet-oriented startups, including such iconic names as Google, Facebook, Adobe, Dropbox, Netflix, Apple, Fry’s Electronics, and more. We’re the only region to have three TechShops in addition to a number of other makerspaces and hackerspaces, including the original Noise Bridge SF (to the best of my knowledge, the first public maker/hacker space in the US, having opened its doors in 2008 (or possibly earlier), patterned after such spaces in Europe. The bay area has great cultural diversity, lots of fun things to do, and is within a relatively short drive of mountains, desert, ocean (beaches and cliffs available), awesome SCUBA diving, great downhill and XC skiing, hang gliding, sailing, and more. There’s a strong and active General Aviation community and lots of places to rent airplanes and helicopters. Contrary to Bill’s claims, we have nearly as many data centers housing lots of interconnect, content providers, etc. out here, too. We’re also a primary gateway to Asia and the Pacific as well as Australia. Our weather is pretty much temperate year round. Owen On Jul 25, 2014, at 2:31 PM, William Herrin <bill@herrin.us> wrote:
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 7:20 PM, Nolan Rollo <nrollo@kw-corp.com> wrote:
I've been trying to decide for a while what makes a good home for a Network Admin... access to physical, reliable upstream routes? good selection of local taverns? What, in your opinion, makes a good location for a Network Admin and where in the US would you find that?
Hi Nolan,
Back in the days of lore when the Internet ran over telephone lines instead of the other way around, the most substantial long haul communications hub in the country was Northern Virginia's Dulles Corridor. More than any other area, leased lines to and from anywhere transited northern VA because that's how the long distance telephone infrastructure was built. Move the call here, switch it, move it back out. This made it the cheapest place to hub your Internet backbone. Indeed, the first large Internet Exchange Point, MAE-East was originally a FDDI ring at 8100 Boone Blvd, Vienna VA in the area known as Tysons Corner.
The Internet is much more distributed now, but the area still retains its legacy. Lots of Internet companies continue to house major facilities here and operations such as ARIN are headquartered here. More, many of the folks you've come to know on NANOG and in other forums live and work here.
Bonuses: With the possible exception of NYC, nowhere in the U.S. has more or finer quality cultural institutions than DC and its suburbs (Northern Virginia). The Smithsonian's extensive network of museums, the Kennedy Center, and so on. Federal money tends not to wander far, so you'll never want for paying work in Northern Virginia. Nowhere I've traveled has a broader selection of good restaurants. Most places have a local food with a bunch of good restaurants for that food, but we have all the foods and at least a few restaurants for each which are exceptional. Casual conversation is heavy on politics and matters of import
Less than wonderful: Not the worst traffic in the nation but not far from it High rent, high cost of living Political conversation is inescapable
good selection of local taverns?
Octoberfest at the German embassy annex at Dulles Airport. ;)
Regards, Bill Herrin
-- William Herrin ................ herrin@dirtside.com bill@herrin.us Owner, Dirtside Systems ......... Web: <http://www.dirtside.com/> Can I solve your unusual networking challenges?
Don't forget that, while Virginia has MAE-EAST, the Bay area was the sister location: MAE-WEST. MAE WEST now sits on the property of the NASA Ames Research Center, another excellent local employer and center for high-tech research and development. They do ultra-high-speed networking research in particular, and have lots of interconnects down south to JPL and other universities and centers. On 7/26/14, 10:13 AM, Owen DeLong wrote:
Personally, I think the SF bay area has you beat.
Bill, on your list of not so wonderful things in DC, you left off:
Weather In the sumer, the DC area is, well, what you’d expect from a hot, humid, fetid swamp. In the winter, you can make ice cream outside without rock salt (though there’s plenty of salt available on the roads). The spring and fall aren’t bad (for about 2 weeks each). Otherwise, the weather is not at all wonderful in that area.
SF has a very wide variety of cultural exhibitions, activities, and institutions. We also have nearly as wide a variety of ethnic cuisine as you can find in New York (wider than DC/NoVA from what I’ve seen, actually). We also have a major concentration of technology and internet-oriented startups, including such iconic names as Google, Facebook, Adobe, Dropbox, Netflix, Apple, Fry’s Electronics, and more. We’re the only region to have three TechShops in addition to a number of other makerspaces and hackerspaces, including the original Noise Bridge SF (to the best of my knowledge, the first public maker/hacker space in the US, having opened its doors in 2008 (or possibly earlier), patterned after such spaces in Europe.
The bay area has great cultural diversity, lots of fun things to do, and is within a relatively short drive of mountains, desert, ocean (beaches and cliffs available), awesome SCUBA diving, great downhill and XC skiing, hang gliding, sailing, and more. There’s a strong and active General Aviation community and lots of places to rent airplanes and helicopters.
Contrary to Bill’s claims, we have nearly as many data centers housing lots of interconnect, content providers, etc. out here, too. We’re also a primary gateway to Asia and the Pacific as well as Australia.
Our weather is pretty much temperate year round.
Owen
On Jul 25, 2014, at 2:31 PM, William Herrin <bill@herrin.us> wrote:
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 7:20 PM, Nolan Rollo <nrollo@kw-corp.com> wrote:
I've been trying to decide for a while what makes a good home for a Network Admin... access to physical, reliable upstream routes? good selection of local taverns? What, in your opinion, makes a good location for a Network Admin and where in the US would you find that? Hi Nolan,
Back in the days of lore when the Internet ran over telephone lines instead of the other way around, the most substantial long haul communications hub in the country was Northern Virginia's Dulles Corridor. More than any other area, leased lines to and from anywhere transited northern VA because that's how the long distance telephone infrastructure was built. Move the call here, switch it, move it back out. This made it the cheapest place to hub your Internet backbone. Indeed, the first large Internet Exchange Point, MAE-East was originally a FDDI ring at 8100 Boone Blvd, Vienna VA in the area known as Tysons Corner.
The Internet is much more distributed now, but the area still retains its legacy. Lots of Internet companies continue to house major facilities here and operations such as ARIN are headquartered here. More, many of the folks you've come to know on NANOG and in other forums live and work here.
Bonuses: With the possible exception of NYC, nowhere in the U.S. has more or finer quality cultural institutions than DC and its suburbs (Northern Virginia). The Smithsonian's extensive network of museums, the Kennedy Center, and so on. Federal money tends not to wander far, so you'll never want for paying work in Northern Virginia. Nowhere I've traveled has a broader selection of good restaurants. Most places have a local food with a bunch of good restaurants for that food, but we have all the foods and at least a few restaurants for each which are exceptional. Casual conversation is heavy on politics and matters of import
Less than wonderful: Not the worst traffic in the nation but not far from it High rent, high cost of living Political conversation is inescapable
good selection of local taverns? Octoberfest at the German embassy annex at Dulles Airport. ;)
Regards, Bill Herrin
-- William Herrin ................ herrin@dirtside.com bill@herrin.us Owner, Dirtside Systems ......... Web: <http://www.dirtside.com/> Can I solve your unusual networking challenges?
On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 1:13 PM, Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com> wrote:
Bill, on your list of not so wonderful things in DC, you left off: Weather In the sumer, the DC area is, well, what you’d expect from a hot, humid, fetid swamp. In the winter, you can make ice cream outside without rock salt (though there’s plenty of salt available on the roads).
Meh. The weather is always temperate indoors. You ARE a computer guy, right?
Contrary to Bill’s claims, we have nearly as many data centers housing lots of interconnect, content providers, etc. out here, too. We’re also a primary gateway to Asia and the Pacific as well as Australia.
I wouldn't dream of suggesting that silicon valley lacks for anything of interest to computer and networking folks. You even have heavy taxation, heavy regulation and a state government ever on the brink of financial collapse, all things less prevalent in Northern Virginia. Though if you really enjoy those things you can always visit DC or the People's Republic of Maryland. Regards, Bill Herrin -- William Herrin ................ herrin@dirtside.com bill@herrin.us Owner, Dirtside Systems ......... Web: <http://www.dirtside.com/> Can I solve your unusual networking challenges?
On 07/26/2014 06:01 PM, William Herrin wrote:
On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 1:13 PM, Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com> wrote:
Bill, on your list of not so wonderful things in DC, you left off: Weather In the sumer, the DC area is, well, what you’d expect from a hot, humid, fetid swamp. In the winter, you can make ice cream outside without rock salt (though there’s plenty of salt available on the roads). Meh. The weather is always temperate indoors. You ARE a computer guy, right?
Contrary to Bill’s claims, we have nearly as many data centers housing lots of interconnect, content providers, etc. out here, too. We’re also a primary gateway to Asia and the Pacific as well as Australia. I wouldn't dream of suggesting that silicon valley lacks for anything of interest to computer and networking folks. You even have heavy taxation, heavy regulation and a state government ever on the brink of financial collapse, all things less prevalent in Northern Virginia. Though if you really enjoy those things you can always visit DC or the People's Republic of Maryland.
Don't forget the hipsters with their skinny jeans. And $1M median housing prices. It's awful out here. We're on the brink of collapse and will be joining the ranks of Mississippi soon, with our main export being deep fried silicon. Mike
On Jul 26, 2014, at 6:01 PM, William Herrin <bill@herrin.us> wrote:
On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 1:13 PM, Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com> wrote: Bill, on your list of not so wonderful things in DC, you left off: Weather In the sumer, the DC area is, well, what you’d expect from a hot, humid, fetid swamp. In the winter, you can make ice cream outside without rock salt (though there’s plenty of salt available on the roads).
Meh. The weather is always temperate indoors. You ARE a computer guy, right?
Yes and no. I like being able to go outside and enjoy things outside of my job environment. To me, weather matters. I guess if I had grown up or been stuck in the DC area for a long time, I might not be so focused on the outdoors.
Contrary to Bill’s claims, we have nearly as many data centers housing lots of interconnect, content providers, etc. out here, too. We’re also a primary gateway to Asia and the Pacific as well as Australia.
I wouldn't dream of suggesting that silicon valley lacks for anything of interest to computer and networking folks. You even have heavy taxation, heavy regulation and a state government ever on the brink of financial collapse, all things less prevalent in Northern Virginia. Though if you really enjoy those things you can always visit DC or the People's Republic of Maryland.
Meh... I don't think my taxation is that high overall. Yes, I pay a slightly higher sales tax than VA, but IIRC, our income tax rate is lower. My property taxes are definitely lower and more predictable. Owen
On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 9:28 AM, Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com> wrote:
On Jul 26, 2014, at 6:01 PM, William Herrin <bill@herrin.us> wrote:
On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 1:13 PM, Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com> wrote: Bill, on your list of not so wonderful things in DC, you left off: Weather In the sumer, the DC area is, well, what you’d expect from a hot, humid, fetid swamp. In the winter, you can make ice cream outside without rock salt (though there’s plenty of salt available on the roads).
Meh. The weather is always temperate indoors. You ARE a computer guy, right?
Yes and no. I like being able to go outside and enjoy things outside of my job environment.
To me, weather matters.
I guess if I had grown up or been stuck in the DC area for a long time, I might not be so focused on the outdoors.
Contrary to Bill’s claims, we have nearly as many data centers housing lots of interconnect, content providers, etc. out here, too. We’re also a primary gateway to Asia and the Pacific as well as Australia.
I wouldn't dream of suggesting that silicon valley lacks for anything of interest to computer and networking folks. You even have heavy taxation, heavy regulation and a state government ever on the brink of financial collapse, all things less prevalent in Northern Virginia. Though if you really enjoy those things you can always visit DC or the People's Republic of Maryland.
Meh... I don't think my taxation is that high overall. Yes, I pay a slightly higher sales tax than VA, but IIRC, our income tax rate is lower. My property taxes are definitely lower and more predictable.
Owen
Shush, Owen! It's already crowded enough out here--the last thing we need is more people thinking it's a good place to work. ;P You wouldn't like it here in the Bay Area. It's horrible, there's pollution all the time, the traffic is terrible, there's no reasonable public transportation, there's no late-night eateries for when you finish that maintenance window at 2am. You definitely don't want to live here. :D And as far as that government data about salary goes...yeah, that's definitely the mean, and doesn't represent the full range. My W2 last year was *mumble*-times the listed mean for some parts of the country. Telecommuting can work out amazingly well, for the right people. But it takes dedication and focus, and a relentless willingness to be accessible to your coworkers. Matt
On 7/27/2014 12:41 PM, Matthew Petach wrote:
You wouldn't like it here in the Bay Area. It's horrible, there's pollution all the time, the traffic is terrible, there's no reasonable public transportation, there's no late-night eateries for when you finish that maintenance window at 2am. You definitely don't want to live here. :D
Well, definitely not. I'll stick to my ranch in rural Oklahoma. Since I was young, I've always wanted to have a high speed connection to a house in the middle of nowhere. Originally, I liked the mountain ranges my great grandmother used to live on. These days, I'm happy with my crop fields and trees, even if it is a bit flat. Turns out, it's easier to bury fiber when you don't have to go through a mountain. :) I know I'm not alone in my duality; the need to balance my geek and my need for nature. It generally does hurt the ability to drive into an office daily, though. Then again, it's over a mile as the crow flies to my nearest neighbor. Still working on a good wireless repeater system to get me from the house to a good resting place in the forest. Trees and wifi not friendly. lol Jack
Use this: http://www.dentonrc.com/local-news/local-news-headlines/20140512-drone-offer... -----Original Message----- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Jack Bates Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2014 2:05 PM To: Matthew Petach; Owen DeLong Cc: NANOG (nanog@nanog.org) Subject: Re: [OPINION] Best place in the US for NetAdmins On 7/27/2014 12:41 PM, Matthew Petach wrote:
You wouldn't like it here in the Bay Area. It's horrible, there's pollution all the time, the traffic is terrible, there's no reasonable public transportation, there's no late-night eateries for when you finish that maintenance window at 2am. You definitely don't want to live here. :D
Well, definitely not. I'll stick to my ranch in rural Oklahoma. Since I was young, I've always wanted to have a high speed connection to a house in the middle of nowhere. Originally, I liked the mountain ranges my great grandmother used to live on. These days, I'm happy with my crop fields and trees, even if it is a bit flat. Turns out, it's easier to bury fiber when you don't have to go through a mountain. :) I know I'm not alone in my duality; the need to balance my geek and my need for nature. It generally does hurt the ability to drive into an office daily, though. Then again, it's over a mile as the crow flies to my nearest neighbor. Still working on a good wireless repeater system to get me from the house to a good resting place in the forest. Trees and wifi not friendly. lol Jack
On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 12:20 PM, Kenneth M. Chipps Ph.D. <chipps@chipps.com
wrote:
Use this:
http://www.dentonrc.com/local-news/local-news-headlines/20140512-drone-offer...
Combine that with Google's helium balloon idea, and you end up with a positionable wifi platform that can stay aloft for days... hmmm... Nah, already have too much on my plate. but the idea is intriguing. Matt
-----Original Message----- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Jack Bates Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2014 2:05 PM To: Matthew Petach; Owen DeLong Cc: NANOG (nanog@nanog.org) Subject: Re: [OPINION] Best place in the US for NetAdmins
On 7/27/2014 12:41 PM, Matthew Petach wrote:
You wouldn't like it here in the Bay Area. It's horrible, there's pollution all the time, the traffic is terrible, there's no reasonable public transportation, there's no late-night eateries for when you finish that maintenance window at 2am. You definitely don't want to live here. :D
Well, definitely not. I'll stick to my ranch in rural Oklahoma. Since I was young, I've always wanted to have a high speed connection to a house in the middle of nowhere. Originally, I liked the mountain ranges my great grandmother used to live on. These days, I'm happy with my crop fields and trees, even if it is a bit flat. Turns out, it's easier to bury fiber when you don't have to go through a mountain. :)
I know I'm not alone in my duality; the need to balance my geek and my need for nature. It generally does hurt the ability to drive into an office daily, though. Then again, it's over a mile as the crow flies to my nearest neighbor. Still working on a good wireless repeater system to get me from the house to a good resting place in the forest. Trees and wifi not friendly. lol
Jack
On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Jack Bates <jbates@paradoxnetworks.net> wrote:
On 7/27/2014 12:41 PM, Matthew Petach wrote:
You wouldn't like it here in the Bay Area. It's horrible, there's pollution all the time, the traffic is terrible, there's no reasonable public transportation, there's no late-night eateries for when you finish that maintenance window at 2am. You definitely don't want to live here. :D
Well, definitely not. I'll stick to my ranch in rural Oklahoma. Since I was young, I've always wanted to have a high speed connection to a house in the middle of nowhere. Originally, I liked the mountain ranges my great grandmother used to live on. These days, I'm happy with my crop fields and trees, even if it is a bit flat. Turns out, it's easier to bury fiber when you don't have to go through a mountain. :)
I know I'm not alone in my duality; the need to balance my geek and my need for nature. It generally does hurt the ability to drive into an office daily, though. Then again, it's over a mile as the crow flies to my nearest neighbor. Still working on a good wireless repeater system to get me from the house to a good resting place in the forest. Trees and wifi not friendly. lol
Jack
I wrestled with that duality myself, and finally solved it by buying 10 acres of land about 12 miles from company HQ, so I can be in the office as needed, but still relax under the gentle sound of the wind through the pine trees, watching the birds wheeling back and forth on the wind down in the canyon below. Downside is I haven't solved the high speed internet access question yet; that's still on the to-do list for the property. :/ Turns out high-speed internet is hard to come by in the Silicon Valley area...but that's a topic for another thread. Matt
On Jul 27, 2014, at 1:41 PM, Matthew Petach <mpetach@netflight.com> wrote:
Telecommuting can work out amazingly well, for the right people. But it takes dedication and focus, and a relentless willingness to be accessible to your coworkers.
It also takes an organization committed to it as well. -dorian
On Tue, 22 Jul 2014, Nolan Rollo wrote:
I've been trying to decide for a while what makes a good home for a Network Admin... access to physical, reliable upstream routes? good selection of local taverns? What, in your opinion, makes a good location for a Network Admin and where in the US would you find that?
Some place with someone willing to pay for a network admin services. The Bureau of Labor Statistics has employment and salary data for computer and network administrators covering the entire USA. http://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes151142.htm Other than that, what people are willing to accept, and what people are willing to offer will vary alot. Self-employed, small, medium, large organization. Rural/city. Family/single activities. Work anywhere/Get away from work. Colloborative/solitary environment. And so on. http://www.bls.gov/ooh/computer-and-information-technology/network-and-compu...
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