Oh come on. It really is THAT easy. PROVE you need the space and it's yours _TO_USE_ for a fee. It may involve, as in MANY cases, growing to a size where it is PAINFUL to renumber into your own address space but, if numbering your customers into provider space is what it takes to get your OWN address space, it works. (It's a pain to get them to renumber though!) Kyle is right though. If you can JUSTIFY your request, you're pretty much on-track to get the address space and subsequent allocations are easier, providing you have properly SWIP'd your current allocation. The folks at ARIN aren't _AS_ evil as many people would like to make them out to be. <g> --- John Fraizer EnterZone, Inc On Mon, 9 Apr 2001, Jade E. Deane wrote:

That's a wonderful monolithic UUNet view on the world. Practical IP addressing and assignments is being taught in room 104b down the hall.

Jade

-----Original Message----- From: Kyle C. Bacon [mailto:kbacon@fnsi.net] Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 3:43 PM To: Segal, Mark Cc: nanog@merit.edu; owner-nanog@merit.edu Subject: RE: Getting a "portable" /19 or /20

Obtaining IP space from ARIN is easy as 1, 2, 3

1) Document your network and force your customers to document theirs (if you are re-allocating to customers) 2) Practice responsible allocations as outlines in RFC's & ARIN (force your customers to do the same) 3) SWIP

K

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With comments like that too a public list which ARIN reads.. :)..

Have fun requesting your next allocation. :). Mark

-- Mark Segal Director, Data and Internet Planning Axxent Corp. Tel: (416)907-2858

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-----Original Message----- From: Jade E. Deane [mailto:jade.deane@HelloNetwork.com] Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 3:31 PM To: 'mike harrison'; nanog@merit.edu Subject: RE: Getting a "portable" /19 or /20

Sure... knee pads and a copy of the communist manifesto, to put you in the proper ARIN mindset.

Jade

-----Original Message----- From: mike harrison [mailto:meuon@highertech.net] Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 12:40 PM To: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Getting a "portable" /19 or /20

With the demise of Winstar/good.net locally, and us having to renumber anyway, I am getting started on the idea of getting a 'portable' /19 from Arin. We are currently using a non-portable /20 and a couple of /24's.

Any words of advice as we start this process? I'd like to do this right the first time and could use an experienced viewpoint.

Mike Harrison -- ASN 3901