Indeed. So would this be...IP over IP? And tunnels in tunnels in tunnels... I see some deep recursion fun here. (Now...to keep the underlying carrier networks up. Perhaps we need an Undernet for the Internet to support this Overnet and its valid mode of delivery.) Follow the white rabbit... <knock knock> heh, --ra On Thu, Sep 09, 2004 at 08:22:10PM +0000, Fergie (Paul Ferguson) said something to the effect of:

Layer 8.

- ferg

-- Paul Vixie <paul@vix.com> wrote:

update SAN FRANCISCO--The Internet needs to be upgraded with a new layer of abilities that will deal with imminent problems of capacity, security and reliability, Intel Chief Technology Officer Pat Gelsinger said Thursday.

Gelsinger pointed to PlanetLab, an experimental network that sits on top of the Internet, as a step in the right direction. Hewlett-Packard and Intel have begun work trying to commercialize the project, which was started in 2002, in order to overlay the Internet with intelligence and adaptability. [...]

http://news.com.com/Intel+calls+for+Internet+overhaul/2100-1006_3-5359743.ht...

-- "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson Engineering Architecture for the Internet fergdawg@netzero.net or fergdawg@sbcglobal.net

-- rachael treu-gomes rara@navigo.com ..quis costodiet ipsos custodes?..

On Thu, 9 Sep 2004, Fergie (Paul Ferguson) wrote:

Layer 8.

- ferg

Sounds more like a burrito than the internet...