From: "Forrest W. Christian" <forrestc@imach.com> That is until I had an outage last week caused by a Fiber Cut in Texas. Now I'm mad. I supposedly have a line from Helena to Seattle to California which somehow goes through Texas.

Reminds me of when the entire NSFnet went down because both the primary and backup links (purchased deliberately to be separate) coming to the NSF NOC were cut -- far to the north, on supposedly southeast and southwest bound links! Needless to say, the two links weren't supposed to go over the same fiber (by definition), and going by way of Midland was a long way out of the way! (Not as far as Texas, though.) Maybe every contract needs a clear picture of where the links are actually located! What can NANOG, as a group, do about this problem? Do we need to form yet another consortium to coordinate link purchases for NA? Might save some money, too.... Bill.Simpson@um.cc.umich.edu Key fingerprint = 2E 07 23 03 C5 62 70 D3 59 B1 4F 5E 1D C2 C1 A2