RE: Triple Play [was: CAUTION: Potentially Dumb Question...]
He hasn't taken broadcast TV delivery into account in the Triple Play scenario. You gotta plumb them packets good for that...
I don't watch anything live anymore, all via Tivo. If Tivo could do bittorrent and download the content, then would I need broadcast? TV model is going to change significantly in the next 3-5 years. Bora
On Feb 6, 2006, at 8:33 PM, Bora Akyol wrote:
He hasn't taken broadcast TV delivery into account in the Triple Play scenario. You gotta plumb them packets good for that...
I don't watch anything live anymore, all via Tivo. If Tivo could do bittorrent and download the content, then would I need broadcast?
Because of the nature of broadcast sports events as well as live news channels.
TV model is going to change significantly in the next 3-5 years.
Sure. But you're deluding yourself if you think it's going to go all VoD.
On Mon, 6 Feb 2006, Bora Akyol wrote:
He hasn't taken broadcast TV delivery into account in the Triple Play scenario. You gotta plumb them packets good for that...
I don't watch anything live anymore, all via Tivo. If Tivo could do bittorrent and download the content, then would I need broadcast?
Broadcast remains an extremely efficient method for bulk distribution of content to those TiVo's even if you watch everything on a delay. Some grad student can probably write a thesis what the cross-over point is for different use conditions. FedEx vs. P2P vs. Unicast vs. Broadcast vs. ??? I think BitTorrent is successfull because that's where the content people want is. I don't think users actually care much about the protocols. We've seen how fickle users can be, quickly migrating to different protocols/applications depending on where the content they want is. Are there any Gopher servers left?
TV model is going to change significantly in the next 3-5 years.
I'll agree, but I have no idea how. Most of the predictions will be wrong, they always are. I've seen a lot of cool future stuff from various companies and individual inventors. But it will be the consumer that decides the winners.
On Feb 6, 2006, at 11:17 PM, Sean Donelan wrote:
On Mon, 6 Feb 2006, Bora Akyol wrote:
He hasn't taken broadcast TV delivery into account in the Triple Play scenario. You gotta plumb them packets good for that...
I don't watch anything live anymore, all via Tivo. If Tivo could do bittorrent and download the content, then would I need broadcast?
Broadcast remains an extremely efficient method for bulk distribution of content to those TiVo's even if you watch everything on a delay. Some grad student can probably write a thesis what the cross-over point is for different use conditions. FedEx vs. P2P vs. Unicast vs. Broadcast vs. ???
If you're near real time, you have lots of options actually. And I would contend that p2p can be efficient for broadcast distribution actually. There already are several startups doing exactly that for large scalability.
I think BitTorrent is successfull because that's where the content people want is. I don't think users actually care much about the protocols. We've seen how fickle users can be, quickly migrating to different protocols/applications depending on where the content they want is. Are there any Gopher servers left?
No actual end user (other than the geek crowd) will ever care that it's BitTorrent or whatever. Agreed. But that doesn't mean a bastardization of the idea won't run underneath. Best regards, Christian
On Mon, 6 Feb 2006, Christian Kuhtz wrote:
If you're near real time, you have lots of options actually. And I would contend that p2p can be efficient for broadcast distribution actually. There already are several startups doing exactly that for large scalability.
Yep. Lots of startups have lots of ideas. If you are selling hammers, you can use the same hammer for lots of projects. But I'm not a true believer in the hammer religion.
No actual end user (other than the geek crowd) will ever care that it's BitTorrent or whatever. Agreed. But that doesn't mean a bastardization of the idea won't run underneath.
I'm a terrible forecaster. I have no idea how the future will turn out. Sometimes there are several ways to solve a problem.
On Feb 7, 2006, at 10:27 AM, Sean Donelan wrote:
On Mon, 6 Feb 2006, Christian Kuhtz wrote:
If you're near real time, you have lots of options actually. And I would contend that p2p can be efficient for broadcast distribution actually. There already are several startups doing exactly that for large scalability.
Yep. Lots of startups have lots of ideas. If you are selling hammers, you can use the same hammer for lots of projects. But I'm not a true believer in the hammer religion.
Argh. What I'm saying is that this is being worked on. And I know from the research perspective in a previous life that it can be made work. The fact that startups are working on commercializing wasn't supposed to suggest viability (it never does), but that products are on the way to market. I have my confirmation of viability of the concept from a different background altogether and I don't subscribe to startup=viability for anything.
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