I don't know quite what to say to this, so I simply forward it to the list without further comment... Owen ----- Begin Included Message -----

From creg@internic.net Thu Mar 25 20:59:15 1999 From: Contact Registration Account <creg@internic.net> Subject: Re: [NIC-990226.52da] Suggestion: Add contact entry to whois To: owen@dixon.DeLong.SJ.CA.US (Owen DeLong) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 23:59:16 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199903151618.IAA09244@irkutsk.delong.sj.ca.us> from "Owen DeLong" at Mar 15, 99 08:18:01 am X-MTS-Ticket: 990226.52da X-MTS-Type: POC X-MTS-Priority: Normal X-MTS-Mode: Unknown X-MTS-Status: Open X-MTS-Timestamp: 990315111628 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Lines: 124

Thank you for contacting Network Solutions. We are unable to fulfill your request without the following information, as indicated below: Domain Name Registration Agreement ___ 1. Your request was not submitted on the appropriate form. Please submit your request on the Domain Name Registration Agreement. ___ 2. The NIC-tracking number (example: 990203.1a2d) associated with your request was either not provided or is invalid. ___ 2b The NIC-tracking number you referenced is not associated with your current request. If you are unable to locate the NIC-tracking number for your current request, please re-submit your Domain Name Registration Agreement to receive a new tracking number. ___ 2c The NIC-tracking number you have referenced, (), does not have a Domain Name Registration Agreement associated with it. Please check the number and resubmit your request. ___ 3. To ensure that we have the proper authorization to process your request, we require a faxed authorization letter. To create an authorization letter to modify a domain name record, please visit our web site at www.networksolutions.com. ___ 4. We did not receive your facsimile in its entirety or it was illegible. ___ 5. Your request is considered a transfer of a domain name registration, and must be submitted on a Registrant Name Change Agreement - Transfer form. The form is available at www.networksolutions.com. Select Make Changes, then choose Registrant Name Change Agreement. Answers to Frequently Asked Questions about the Registrant Name Change Agreement are available on our Web site. From our home page, choose Help, Make Changes, Registrant Name Change Agreement FAQ. Contact Form ___ 1. To ensure that we have the proper authorization to process your request, we require a faxed authorization letter. To create an authorization letter to modify an individual contact record, please visit our web site at www.networksolutions.com. ___ 2. To ensure that we have the proper authorization to process your request, we require a faxed authorization letter. To create a letter of authorization to modify an role contact record, please visit our web site at www.networksolutions.com. ___ 3. Your Contact Form is incomplete. Please complete Section 1 in its entirety and re-submit the Form to HOSTMASTER@INTERNIC.NET Best Regards, Network Solutions Registration Services World Wide Web: http://www.networksolutions.com E-mail: hostmaster@internic.net Tax ID #: 52-1146119 cc 03/06/99 nsi_rp80 =========================================================================

Well, I, and many other people on NANOG where this has been discussed over the last several weeks would tend to disagree with you. While your answer certainly reflects the current state of the database, it appears that you may not have understood the intent of the message.

I am suggesting that it may be time to consider the addition of those fields as a change. I wanted to solicit input from InterNIC and ARIN, as well as NANOG. At this point, I will probably attempt to put it through the RFC process. The idea seemed to have substantial support from the community. There were some voices of dissent, but most of them revolved around the fact that it didn't solve all the problems or didn't solve certain problems it wasn't intended to solve.

There was one voice opposed on the basis that all contact information for domains should be private, but this opinion doesn't appear to be widely represented among the community.

Owen

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Dear Customer,

Thank you for contacting Network Solutions, Inc., InterNIC Registration Services.

Please be advised, unfortunately three contacts are all that needed.

Best Regards, Ed r Network Solutions, Inc.

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We already have Admin, Tech, and Billing. Would it be possible to consider the addition of an Abuse contact in whois?

Owen

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