On Jun 3, 2016, at 17:35 , Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com> wrote: Letâ's face it folks, if we want to encourage Netflix to tell the content providers to give up the silly geo-shit, then we have to stop patronizing channels that do silly geo-shit.

Correct but it needs a lot to do that. We do the geo thing. I didn't want us to and we didn't for a few years but once the geo people had convinced rights owners it was a viable thing they forced people buying their content to use it. I tried to stop it here and failed but it's never over, people are starting to realise it's silly to annoy people who want your services, you just need to find a way to allow them To be fair to Netflix the tunnel blocking will likely have been driven by their content suppliers asserting their contractual rights to not allow access from certain places. Their content suppliers will have seen people boasting how they use tunnels to get round them and tunnel suppliers advertising their services for doing so. Blame them for the blocking as while it was a personal thing they wouldn't have been bothered much. As usual a few people see an opportunity to make money off something and in the process break it for everyone btw the list of tunnel providers was likely supplied by the same geo ip people, some sell that as an extra. brandon