I disagree with your position completely Mike. None of what is below is what I would consider "bashing". Instead, it is a straightforward and honest display of what is breaking large parts of the Internet with a request that it be solved. I consider it highly constructive. It is absolutely ridiculous that there are providers that still flap routes, especially one the size of PSI, for dialup customers. Owen

Can we stop this bashing right here, Sean? I don't believe that this list is the adequate forum four such childish behaviour. I have a collection of your past emails and I am rather fed up withthis.

Can Sean be removed from the list? These are not contributions in any sense of constructivity at all.

Sprint can very well chose a different person to make their corporate views known on an nanog scale.Mike

Mike

On Mon, 11 Sep 1995, Sean Doran wrote:

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There were several other providers who got notes from me about prefixes that were flapping every several seconds or thereabouts. The tally so far:

Polite "we have a ticket open and will get someone to fix things" from three providers (thanks ANS, BBN, EBONE).

A trio of no-answer-yets, one of which has since been fixed, one of which will be fixed since I have the advantage of sharing a room with the routing guru of the NSP in question and the bigger advantage of not needing nearly as much sleep. :-)

The third no-answer-yet is from a smaller provider in Europe, and I expect they'll get back to me in their morning.

Finally, there was the previous reply.

Sean.

P.S.: Oh, I also have to thank Pushpendra Mohta of CERFNET who replied to an earlier note personally with an explanation of what was going on.

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