Re: OT: old farts recollecting -- Re: ASR1002
On Tue, 2010-01-19 at 17:42 -0800, Bill Stewart wrote:
Could the comment actually have been about pay telephones, which were once common in cities?
Good point Bill, which, if so, would place the comment at or about the start of the cellfone introduction. @Jim, maybe it's more a telco/2600 thing? None of my overnite greps through old saved chats/snippets came up with anything remotely like it, sadly. I tried a few gopher/archie searches but the system is in very poor shape these days, a shadow of it's early 90's usefulness. Maybe it was on Fidonet or similar? Anyone else have any input? Please ask your old folks ;) Gord
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 08:30:52AM +0000, gordon b slater wrote:
On Tue, 2010-01-19 at 17:42 -0800, Bill Stewart wrote:
Could the comment actually have been about pay telephones, which were once common in cities?
Good point Bill, which, if so, would place the comment at or about the start of the cellfone introduction.
@Jim, maybe it's more a telco/2600 thing?
found it, actually was once in my .signature: "The telephone, for those of you who have forgotten, was a commonly used communications technology in the days before electronic mail. They're still easy to find in most large cities." -- Nathaniel Borenstein i'm guessing this is before the mobile phone explosion. -- Jim Mercer jim@reptiles.org +92 336 520-4504 "I'm Prime Minister of Canada, I live here and I'm going to take a leak." - Lester Pearson in 1967, during a meeting between himself and President Lyndon Johnson, whose Secret Service detail had taken over Pearson's cottage retreat. At one point, a Johnson guard asked Pearson, "Who are you and where are you going?"
On Wed, 2010-01-20 at 03:35 -0500, Jim Mercer wrote:
"The telephone, for those of you who have forgotten, was a commonly used communications technology in the days before electronic mail. They're still easy to find in most large cities." -- Nathaniel Borenstein
Oh, the irony. A quote from Mr MIME himself :)
i'm guessing this is before the mobile phone explosion.
...or before acoustic couplers were junked perhaps.
"The telephone, for those of you who have forgotten, was a commonly used communications technology in the days before electronic mail. They're still easy to find in most large cities." -- Nathaniel Borenstein
i'm guessing this is before the mobile phone explosion.
Good old one. It's funny how we circle around with technology, folks are dumping their phone land lines and adopting wireless/mobile that required a substantial technology leap and investment and now we are using the mobile phone to "text" an incompressible dialect worse than the early teletype/telex days but with a humongous infrastructure to support it. Ohh yeah, now we can send sort of a telegram with multiple fonts and colors almost from anywhere... Cheers Jorge
Hello Valdis , On Wed, 20 Jan 2010, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 08:01:50 CST, Jorge Amodio said:
Ohh yeah, now we can send sort of a telegram with multiple fonts and colors almost from anywhere...
At least it doesn't do <blink>BLINK</blink> ;)
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On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 9:52 AM, <Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu> wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 08:01:50 CST, Jorge Amodio said:
Ohh yeah, now we can send sort of a telegram with multiple fonts and colors almost from anywhere... At least it doesn't do <blink>BLINK</blink> ;)
Oh SMS/MMS do a few things that make blink tags look utterly benign... http://www.dreamfabric.com/sms/alert.html May be possible to send as a flash message that immediately displays blinking, and that depending on phone, the recipient doesn't get any option to control or save, e.g. forced to read before doing anything else, no history or storage of message text once read. But mail readers with javascript and animated GIFs still have them beat overall. E-Mail readers / text message readers epidemically trust the sender too much sometimes, thinking the recipient would rather be annoyed by more rich content (or pwned) than disappointed that rich content shows as plain text. -- -J
James Hess [mailto:mysidia@gmail.com] Saturday, April 17, 2010 4:27 PM
Oh SMS/MMS do a few things that make blink tags look utterly benign... http://www.dreamfabric.com/sms/alert.html
May be possible to send as a flash message that immediately displays blinking, and that depending on phone, the recipient doesn't get any option to control or save, e.g. forced to read before doing anything else, no history or storage of message text once read.
But mail readers with javascript and animated GIFs still have them beat overall.
E-Mail readers / text message readers epidemically trust the sender too much sometimes, thinking the recipient would rather be annoyed by more rich content (or pwned) than disappointed that rich content shows as plain text.
-- -J
Useful adjunct to your junc. http://www.gsmfavorites.com/documents/sms/packetformat -- Jim
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 08:01:50 -0600 Jorge Amodio <jmamodio@gmail.com> wrote:
"The telephone, for those of you who have forgotten, was a commonly used communications technology in the days before electronic mail. They're still easy to find in most large cities." -- Nathaniel Borenstein
i'm guessing this is before the mobile phone explosion.
Good old one.
It's funny how we circle around with technology, folks are dumping their phone land lines and adopting wireless/mobile that required a substantial technology leap and investment and now we are using the mobile phone to "text" an incompressible dialect worse than the early teletype/telex days but with a humongous infrastructure to support it.
I'm not sure how it is in other countries, but here in .au they're a fixed and predictable price before you pay it, are significantly cheaper than an equivalent phone call, and if you have anything that requires accurate recording e.g. email addresses, geo addresses or phone numbers, far less prone to errors. 25c for a text with 160 characters, or 50c flag fall for a phone call before I've even said a word and I don't know how many I'm going to say? I know which one I'm going to prefer..
Ohh yeah, now we can send sort of a telegram with multiple fonts and colors almost from anywhere...
Cheers Jorge
It's funny how we circle around with technology, folks are dumping their phone land lines and adopting wireless/mobile that required a substantial technology leap and investment and now we are using the mobile phone to "text" an incompressible dialect worse than the early teletype/telex days but with a humongous infrastructure to support it.
and paying and exhorbitant price per word for negligible bandwidth. run your own servers or use a friend's and use email randy
On 21/01/2010 07:25, Randy Bush wrote:
It's funny how we circle around with technology, folks are dumping their phone land lines and adopting wireless/mobile that required a substantial technology leap and investment and now we are using the mobile phone to "text" an incompressible dialect worse than the early teletype/telex days but with a humongous infrastructure to support it.
and paying and exhorbitant price per word for negligible bandwidth.
run your own servers or use a friend's and use email
I don't know about anyone else, but the vast majority of my non-tech friends (and even most of my tech ones) don't use email on their phone. Anyone (i.e. everyone I know) who has a mobile phone has the ability to receive an SMS and some things in life are far too much hassle to nickel and dime over the cost per word of sending a communication - life is too short. B
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