As a reminder... Given the recent rash of postings which do not appear congruent with the charter of the NANOG List (and I am guilty for initiating some of them,) I have created an additional resource for those of us who are concerned with the technical issues pertaining to the design, operation, and management of Enterprise Networks. This list primarily caters to Internet Service, Backbone, and Carrier Providers. Enter, the NODlist -- The Network Operators Discussion List. If you are interested in discussions such as the "Ascend GRF vs. Cisco" and "Key Escrow" threads, subscribe to the list and knock yourself out in exchanging relevant and useful information! There is a definite need for a forum whose participants are (without sounding haughty) at the level of the food chain where relevant experience prevails. I want to be able to discuss CEF and Fair-Weighted-Queuing without being told that I have to shuffle off to a USENET group and wade through 650 posts of people trying to determine how to perform reverse Telnet rather than RTFM. Route Aggregation. Tag Switching. Impact of Network Doom on NAP performance ;) -- It's all good! If you're the type that needs a 'charter,' here it is: Be Good Humans. Post Relevant Stuff. To subscribe, you can use a Web Browser and point it here: http://icarus.nodewarrior.net:1918/guest/RemoteListSummary/Nodlist OR, you could always use the old stand-by...send mail to: NODlist-request@nodewarrior.net with the word 'subscribe' (no quotes) as the only text in the body of the message. I hope this helps off-load NANOG and provide a good forum for people to exchange information. Christofer Hoff ,,, (o-o) ------.oOO--(_)--OOo.--------------------------------- Christofer L. Hoff \ No true genius is Chief Nerd, \ possible without a NodeWarrior Networks, Inc \ little intelligent \ madness! hoff@nodewarrior.net \ http://www.nodewarrior.net \ -Peter Uberoth "Nuthin' but Net!" \ ------------------------------------------------------ 310.568.1700 vox - 310.568.4766 fax