Any "security" provided (I must assume that you speak of fraud prevention services) is the probablistic sort, of reducing, for example, aggregate (and not specific) losses. – S -----Original Message----- From: Greg Skinner <gds@gds.best.vwh.net> Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 15:52 To: Martin Hannigan <martin@theicelandguy.com> Cc: nanog@nanog.org <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Re: Looking for verification that Google and Akamai have the geo-ip for 96.31.0.0/20 set correctly On Sat, Jan 03, 2009 at 01:31:28AM -0500, Martin Hannigan wrote:

Overall, geo location has turned out to be a somewhat valuable tool in terms of language, fraud, and localization. I think that it's important to continue to urge improvements in this technology, not divestment.

I don't see how this technology can be improved past a certain point, because the criteria that are used to determine location are only coincidentally tied to location (they are the result of administrative policy and/or configuration). At best, they provide a false sense of "security". --gregbo