(mtr|lft|traceroute) xmas.futile.net /kc -- Ken Chase - Toronto Canada
On 12/24/14 11:27 AM, Ken Chase wrote:
(mtr|lft|traceroute) xmas.futile.net
<sarcasm> It's a good thing we don't have an IPv4 address shortage going on, gotta use all that extra IP space for something! </sarcasm> But honestly, cute and a nice touch. I just get this twitch in my neck when I see stuff like that - same twitch I get when I rdns scan a subnet used for IRC vanity host names. Force of habit I guess. -- Brielle Bruns The Summit Open Source Development Group http://www.sosdg.org / http://www.ahbl.org
On 2014-12-24 19:27, Ken Chase wrote:
(mtr|lft|traceroute) xmas.futile.net
Welcome to the end of 2014. If you are going to do a silly traceroute thing that has been done thousands of times before, at least use this new fangled thing called: IPv6 Here is the Wikipedia page for you to get started on it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv6 Thank you for wasting IPv4 space btw, that way IPv6 has to be there earlier, and as you don't have IPv6 yet, good luck with your business ;) Greets, Jeroen
On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 9:38 AM, Jeroen Massar <jeroen@massar.ch> wrote:
On 2014-12-24 19:27, Ken Chase wrote:
(mtr|lft|traceroute) xmas.futile.net
Welcome to the end of 2014.
If you are going to do a silly traceroute thing that has been done thousands of times before, at least use this new fangled thing called:
IPv6
Here is the Wikipedia page for you to get started on it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv6
Thank you for wasting IPv4 space btw, that way IPv6 has to be there earlier, and as you don't have IPv6 yet, good luck with your business ;)
Maybe it's conspicuous consumption. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handicap_principle Royce
On Wed, 24 Dec 2014 19:38:18 +0100, Jeroen Massar said:
Thank you for wasting IPv4 space btw, that way IPv6 has to be there earlier, and as you don't have IPv6 yet, good luck with your business ;)
Feeling a tad grinchly, are we? :) 'whois 82.133.91.0' reports this: % Information related to '82.133.0.0/17AS9105' route: 82.133.0.0/17 descr: Tiscali UK Limited Feel free to explain how we can *sanely* reclaim a single /24 from a /17 without it looking like a hijacking. Now, *that* would be a really nice holiday gift to the net.
On 2014-12-24 20:06, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:
On Wed, 24 Dec 2014 19:38:18 +0100, Jeroen Massar said:
Thank you for wasting IPv4 space btw, that way IPv6 has to be there earlier, and as you don't have IPv6 yet, good luck with your business ;)
Feeling a tad grinchly, are we? :)
'whois 82.133.91.0' reports this:
% Information related to '82.133.0.0/17AS9105'
route: 82.133.0.0/17 descr: Tiscali UK Limited
Feel free to explain how we can *sanely* reclaim a single /24 from a /17 without it looking like a hijacking.
Why would one bother with IPv4? Just start using IPv6, that IPv4 stuff will disappear over the next few decades by itself.
Now, *that* would be a really nice holiday gift to the net.
A /17 would only last a few moments, not worth the effort of recovering it. Though indeed the reason why CGNs are being deployed is so that the business parts of the same company can charge extra for public IPv4s. On 2014-12-24 20:21, Ken Chase wrote:
On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 07:38:18PM +0100, Jeroen Massar said:
Welcome to the end of 2014.
Yes, I know, fakeroute has been around a while (so has das blinkenlights, but I still find both cute. <must resist the BOFH jadedness>
Though it has been a longwhile since anyone forwarded me DECWARS...
/* fakeroute (c) 1996 Julian Assange <proff@iq.org> */
Interesting, I did remember rotorouter[1] and check the below url for what the reply to that was, the above one. Funny, seems that mr.Assange did something semi-useful with computers back then *wink* ;) That trick does not help in setting the reverses though as one does not control them; though one could possibly find all the 'sentences' in reverses around the net and reorder them into something coherent... Greets, Jeroen [1] http://www.shmoo.com/mail/bugtraq/aug98/msg00110.html
Merry Christmas to everyone and happy New Year!! -----Original Message----- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Jeroen Massar Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 1:36 PM To: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: merry xmas On 2014-12-24 20:06, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:
On Wed, 24 Dec 2014 19:38:18 +0100, Jeroen Massar said:
Thank you for wasting IPv4 space btw, that way IPv6 has to be there earlier, and as you don't have IPv6 yet, good luck with your business ;)
Feeling a tad grinchly, are we? :)
'whois 82.133.91.0' reports this:
% Information related to '82.133.0.0/17AS9105'
route: 82.133.0.0/17 descr: Tiscali UK Limited
Feel free to explain how we can *sanely* reclaim a single /24 from a /17 without it looking like a hijacking.
Why would one bother with IPv4? Just start using IPv6, that IPv4 stuff will disappear over the next few decades by itself.
Now, *that* would be a really nice holiday gift to the net.
A /17 would only last a few moments, not worth the effort of recovering it. Though indeed the reason why CGNs are being deployed is so that the business parts of the same company can charge extra for public IPv4s. On 2014-12-24 20:21, Ken Chase wrote:
On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 07:38:18PM +0100, Jeroen Massar said:
Welcome to the end of 2014.
Yes, I know, fakeroute has been around a while (so has das blinkenlights, but I still find both cute. <must resist the BOFH jadedness>
Though it has been a longwhile since anyone forwarded me DECWARS...
/* fakeroute (c) 1996 Julian Assange <proff@iq.org> */
Interesting, I did remember rotorouter[1] and check the below url for what the reply to that was, the above one. Funny, seems that mr.Assange did something semi-useful with computers back then *wink* ;) That trick does not help in setting the reverses though as one does not control them; though one could possibly find all the 'sentences' in reverses around the net and reorder them into something coherent... Greets, Jeroen [1] http://www.shmoo.com/mail/bugtraq/aug98/msg00110.html
On Wed, 24 Dec 2014 21:35:30 +0100, Jeroen Massar said:
On 2014-12-24 20:06, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:
Feel free to explain how we can *sanely* reclaim a single /24 from a /17 without it looking like a hijacking.
Why would one bother with IPv4?
Well then, the waste of a /24 doesn't *actually* matter then, does it? :)
Just start using IPv6, that IPv4 stuff will disappear over the next few decades by itself.
(And I *did* "just start using IPv6" - I helped my employer put it in production *last century*. Glad to see the rest of the world finally catch up. :)
*grumble grumble bah humbug grumble grumble splat* On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 12:35 PM, Jeroen Massar <jeroen@massar.ch> wrote:
On 2014-12-24 20:06, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:
On Wed, 24 Dec 2014 19:38:18 +0100, Jeroen Massar said:
Thank you for wasting IPv4 space btw, that way IPv6 has to be there earlier, and as you don't have IPv6 yet, good luck with your business ;)
Feeling a tad grinchly, are we? :)
'whois 82.133.91.0' reports this:
% Information related to '82.133.0.0/17AS9105'
route: 82.133.0.0/17 descr: Tiscali UK Limited
Feel free to explain how we can *sanely* reclaim a single /24 from a /17 without it looking like a hijacking.
Why would one bother with IPv4?
Just start using IPv6, that IPv4 stuff will disappear over the next few decades by itself.
Now, *that* would be a really nice holiday gift to the net.
A /17 would only last a few moments, not worth the effort of recovering it. Though indeed the reason why CGNs are being deployed is so that the business parts of the same company can charge extra for public IPv4s.
On 2014-12-24 20:21, Ken Chase wrote:
On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 07:38:18PM +0100, Jeroen Massar said:
Welcome to the end of 2014.
Yes, I know, fakeroute has been around a while (so has das blinkenlights, but I still find both cute. <must resist the BOFH jadedness>
Though it has been a longwhile since anyone forwarded me DECWARS...
/* fakeroute (c) 1996 Julian Assange <proff@iq.org> */
Interesting, I did remember rotorouter[1] and check the below url for what the reply to that was, the above one. Funny, seems that mr.Assange did something semi-useful with computers back then *wink* ;)
That trick does not help in setting the reverses though as one does not control them; though one could possibly find all the 'sentences' in reverses around the net and reorder them into something coherent...
Greets, Jeroen
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On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 07:38:18PM +0100, Jeroen Massar said:
Welcome to the end of 2014.
Yes, I know, fakeroute has been around a while (so has das blinkenlights, but I still find both cute. <must resist the BOFH jadedness> Though it has been a longwhile since anyone forwarded me DECWARS... /* fakeroute (c) 1996 Julian Assange <proff@iq.org> */ /kc -- Ken Chase - Toronto CANADA
On 24 Dec 2014, at 12:38, Jeroen Massar <jeroen@massar.ch> wrote:
On 2014-12-24 19:27, Ken Chase wrote:
(mtr|lft|traceroute) xmas.futile.net
Welcome to the end of 2014.
If you are going to do a silly traceroute thing that has been done thousands of times before, at least use this new fangled thing called:
IPv6
Here is the Wikipedia page for you to get started on it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv6
Thank you for wasting IPv4 space btw, that way IPv6 has to be there earlier, and as you don't have IPv6 yet, good luck with your business ;)
Greets, Jeroen
For anyone who wishes to implement a Holiday Message for us IPv6 folks, Job Snijders has this code online: https://github.com/job/ipv6-traceroute-faker Just needs Linux, Python, and a /64 routed to it. -- Theo Baschak BOFH excuse #411: Traffic jam on the Information Superhighway.
On 12/24/2014 14:40, Theodore Baschak wrote:
For anyone who wishes to implement a Holiday Message for us IPv6 folks, Job Snijders has this code online: https://github.com/job/ipv6-traceroute-faker
Just needs Linux, Python, and a /64 routed to it.
Been trying to get this running but I get this error: TypeError: do_callback() takes exactly 1 argument (2 given) Not sure where it is getting the second argument. Any ideas? -- Sadiq Saif https://staticsafe.ca
On 12/24/2014 20:01, Sadiq Saif wrote:
Been trying to get this running but I get this error: TypeError: do_callback() takes exactly 1 argument (2 given)
Not sure where it is getting the second argument. Any ideas?
To clarify, I am running Python 2.7.6 (default, Mar 22 2014, 22:59:56) on Ubuntu 14.04. -- Sadiq Saif https://staticsafe.ca
At least you’re only having problems with the IPv6 version, I’ve spent about an hour trying to get the IPv4 version of fakeroute working and I just can’t. I even tried a few different ones. Does anyone have a version that works? I have some fun things I’d like to do with it ;) Ammar.
On Dec 25, 2014, at 5:01 AM, Sadiq Saif <lists@sadiqs.com> wrote:
On 12/24/2014 14:40, Theodore Baschak wrote:
For anyone who wishes to implement a Holiday Message for us IPv6 folks, Job Snijders has this code online: https://github.com/job/ipv6-traceroute-faker
Just needs Linux, Python, and a /64 routed to it.
Been trying to get this running but I get this error: TypeError: do_callback() takes exactly 1 argument (2 given)
Not sure where it is getting the second argument. Any ideas?
-- Sadiq Saif https://staticsafe.ca
On 14-12-24 13:27, Ken Chase wrote:
(mtr|lft|traceroute) xmas.futile.net
This one uses only 1 IPv4, so can't be accused of wasting half of internet address space :-) http://http://www.vaxination.ca/temp/train.gif This is an old 1980s ASCII art from VMS that ran on VT220s, digitally restored to animated Gif. (script to slowly dump content to xterm, while quicktime is recording the screen, then off to Adobe Premiere for cropping, scaling, and of course, giving it the CRT look by making it amber text of black background :-) A flash version was also created by twitter: https://twitter.com/jfmezei/status/547300803779002368/photo/1
On 12/24/2014 13:27, Ken Chase wrote:
(mtr|lft|traceroute) xmas.futile.net
/kc -- Ken Chase - Toronto Canada
Here is the IPv6 version: mtr xmas.asininetech.org Thanks to all the people who helped with the bit of python debugging. :) -- Sadiq Saif https://staticsafe.ca
On 12/24/2014 20:52, Sadiq Saif wrote:
Here is the IPv6 version: mtr xmas.asininetech.org
Thanks to all the people who helped with the bit of python debugging. :)
For those using traceroute6, try with the -I flag. -- Sadiq Saif https://staticsafe.ca
On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 6:22 PM, Sadiq Saif <lists@sadiqs.com> wrote:
On 12/24/2014 20:52, Sadiq Saif wrote:
Here is the IPv6 version: mtr xmas.asininetech.org
Thanks to all the people who helped with the bit of python debugging. :)
For those using traceroute6, try with the -I flag.
What is this supposed -l flag? Linux traceroute6 doesn't seem to have a -l flag: mpetach@mintyHP:~> traceroute6 -l xmas.asininetech.org traceroute6: invalid option -- 'l' Usage: traceroute6 [-dnrvV] [-m max_ttl] [-p port#] [-q nqueries] [-s src_addr] [-t tos] [-w wait] host [data size] mpetach@mintyHP:~> mpetach@mintyHP:~> traceroute6 -V traceroute6 utility, iputils-sss20101006 mpetach@mintyHP:~> mpetach@mintyHP:~> traceroute6 -m 255 xmas.asininetech.org traceroute to xmas.asininetech.org (2620:98:4000:c::ffff) from 2001:1868:217:4::131, 255 hops max, 24 byte packets 1 2001:1868:217:4::1 (2001:1868:217:4::1) 0.811 ms 0.744 ms 0.631 ms 2 s4-0-0-4.core2.eqx.layer42.net (2001:1868:1:9::8) 4.588 ms 4.476 ms 4.473 ms 3 ge2-48.core1.sv1.layer42.net (2001:1868::312) 5.78 ms 4.821 ms 4.745 ms 4 xe0-0-0-0.core3.sv1.layer42.net (2001:1868::377) 5.231 ms 4.949 ms 4.937 ms 5 sjo-bb1-link.telia.net (2001:2000:3080:33::1) 4.722 ms 4.73 ms 4.734 ms 6 level3-ic-157355-sjo-bb1.c.telia.net (2001:2000:3080:646::2) 4.749 ms 4.785 ms 4.727 ms 7 vl-70.edge1.SanJose1.Level3.net (2001:1900:1a:6::8) 5.63 ms 5.335 ms 5.289 ms 8 vl-4045.edge5.LosAngeles.Level3.net (2001:1900:4:1::62) 15.256 ms 16.173 ms 15.337 ms 9 vl-90.edge2.LosAngeles9.Level3.net (2001:1900:12:4::e) 28.647 ms 15.227 ms 15.299 ms 10 PCCW-GLOBAL.edge2.LosAngeles9.Level3.net (2001:1900:2100::1e5a) 16.187 ms 15.763 ms 15.821 ms 11 * * * 12 2400:8800:7f04:15::2 (2400:8800:7f04:15::2) 45.747 ms 45.725 ms 45.808 ms 13 2602:ffe8:100::2 (2602:ffe8:100::2) 49.072 ms 49.008 ms 48.727 ms 14 * * * 15 * * * 16 * * * 17 * * * 18 * * * 19 * * * 20 * * * 21 * * * 22 * *^C mpetach@mintyHP:~> IPv6...it's cute to play with, but not quite ready for prime time yet. :/ Matt
On 12/28/2014 15:20, Matthew Petach wrote:
What is this supposed -l flag? Linux traceroute6 doesn't seem to have a -l flag:
It seems your version of traceroute6 is too old for the -I option. It is present in the version in Debian Wheezy. traceroute6 -V Modern traceroute for Linux, version 2.0.18, Jun 30 2012 The little Python script also ran out of memory it seems and was killed by the OS, which is why the traceroute fails otherwise. OSError: [Errno 12] Cannot allocate memory Processing at most 50 events Killed -- Sadiq Saif https://staticsafe.ca
participants (12)
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Ammar Zuberi
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Brielle Bruns
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Jean-Francois Mezei
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Jeroen Massar
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Ken Chase
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Mann, Jason
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Matthew Petach
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Mike Hale
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Royce Williams
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Sadiq Saif
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Theodore Baschak
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Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu